No one discounted their on stage event. They had third parties, second party and first party present and demonstrating and sinking or swimming in front of the crowd as it should. Its  live even that the gaming world is watching and they should be put to the task infront of us, not telling us whats what. 

Lol, okay, but Mario Kart 8 and Mario 3D World had sold more systems with directs than the Wii U with a Legend Of Zelda stage demo that people LOVED did. There was hype for both, but at the end of the day a game is going to create more hype than a live event ever will.

Nintendo Direct had only been around for two years and no Mario Kart has ever sold more than Mario Kart Wii. Super Mario 3D World will not outsell Mario Sunshine. I think you have things twisted.  Nintendo gets less hits online than Sony and MS when it comes to Youtube so y our argument isnt exactly coming up to much. They need E3. They lost the third parties and it took out a chunk of their content at E3. Third parties account for at a quarter of the big three's shows.

How does Mario not selling directly correlate to not having an E3, or hits on youtube. There's a lot of assuming going on.

I was debunking your theory that Nintendo Directs sell systems. No they don't they actually isolate the fanbase rather than expand the viewer base.

Not very well. You're basing games based off of Directs instead of install base. 3D World is going to sell worse because not as many people have a Wii U, and as I stated there was an E3 press conference for the Wii U. We can look directly at Wii U sales first year and Gamecube sales 1st year, that would directly reflect the userbase in which one would buy games. 

Like math, you can't divide by unlike terms. 

Dude...it was you who was basing your evidence for Nintendos sales off of Direct. Isolating your fanbase commercially with updates is not kosher for business. Its actually going to hurt them in the long run. Directs have only existed during the troubled times of Nintendo.

So essentially there is no need for E3 for you. You can watch the aftermath when you're good and ready. E3 is built around conferences. One shouldn't affect the other. Thank goodness for the trailers and clips that outlets provide from the show.

Yeah that may be so. And they may not be able to match MS and/or Sony's games at the conference but I think the publicity and attention and hype (with fans) that the E3 event generates goes far beyond just the visible attributes and I totally agree that they are essentially saying that they have failed by no longer going to E3. And no i dont think the digital nintendo direct episodes in any Yeah that may be so. And they may not be able to match MS and/or Sony's games at the conference but I think the publicity and attention and hype (with fans) that the E3 event generates goes far beyond just the visible attributes and I totally agree that they are essentially saying that they have failed by no longer going to E3. And no i dont think the digital nintendo direct episodes in any way compensates. 

I was saying there is a surge in console sales and hype with the release of great games without the use of an E3 conference to showcase them, that is a fact. You are saying let's look at past game sales and compare, and that the results will show how important an E3 conference is. I'm not even sure how you think that works.

Case and point MK8 is the #1 seller on Amazon right now.