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From TomsGames.com:

Tom's Games: Mark I know why Intel, AMD, NVIDIA, Dell and those guys are here but what do you care about PC gaming? Can't you make console games and do just as well?

Mark Rein: Why can't we make them all? Gears of War aside because Microsoft is the publisher, why are we making UT for two consoles and PC? We want to maximize the revenue potential for our games. We want as many people to play our games as possible. We want as many Playstation players to play our games, we want as many Xbox 360 players to play our games and we want as many PC players as possible to play our games. The PC is certainly an area that has no one defender and if we can join a group that all gets together to defend and help make the PC market flourish I think that's a noble goal and we should do our best.

TG: Why do you think people got nervous when Crysis only sold 87,000 copies and UT3 only sold 34,000 copies in those first few weeks?

MR: NPD numbers are an estimate. We don't know what they are exactly but if you sell 80,000 a month for 10 months that's a multi-million seller worldwide. Who's going to complain about that? We're in the internet age and people react to numbers they don't understand. It's funny, after that I spent a lot of time going through long-term NPD numbers. I actually went and looked all the way back to 1995 and I dissected all the shooters. The path we're on right now isn't going to make it the fastest selling game but PC games have a potentially much longer tail than console games. There's a good chance to sell that game for a much longer period of time than the more hit-oriented console games.

TG: But then you have Cliffy B come out and say that PC gaming is in disarray and...

MR: Oh he's an idiot [laughing]. No, he's a great guy. Cliff makes console games though, right? He's on a console team that makes what is primarily a console game.



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This PCGA is pathetic. Members of the PCGA include representatives from Intel, AMD, Microsoft, NVIDIA, Dell, Acer, Activision and Epic Games. AMD, Intel, nVidia, Dell, and Acer aren't really going to do anything different. They'll just keep building good hardware.

That leaves the 3 software publishers in this: Microsoft, Epic, and Activision. This list is pathetic. They are missing all of the biggest PC developers right now: Valve, THQ, Blizzard, and EA. The only major PC software publisher there is Activision, and they support Steam.

What this PCGA looks like to me is a pathetic attempt for Microsoft to bribe more publishers into supporting Windows Live. If they really cared about PC gaming instead of stuffing their wallets more they would drop it and move their published software to Steam. I only hope Activision doesn't fall for their bullshit and keeps themselves separate from Microsoft's trojan horse online system.

Edit:  I still hate Epic, but Mark Rein just scored a few points with me for calling Cliffy B an idiot.  He gets some respect for keeping his non-Microsoft published games out of Windows Live too. 



Um...Intel buying Offset isn't doing anything different? Big PC exclusives are needed to "save PC gaming" and Intel seems to understand this.



makingmusic476 said:
Um...Intel buying Offset isn't doing anything different? Big PC exclusives are needed to "save PC gaming" and Intel seems to understand this.

I suppose, but if they release it on Windows Live it will be an instant flop, just as every game on the system has been.  So, what is intel really supporting? PC gaming or Microsoft?  Because they aren't the same thing.



naznatips said:
makingmusic476 said:
Um...Intel buying Offset isn't doing anything different? Big PC exclusives are needed to "save PC gaming" and Intel seems to understand this.

I suppose, but if they release it on Windows Live it will be an instant flop, just as every game on the system has been.  So, what is intel really supporting? PC gaming or Microsoft?  Because they aren't the same thing.


 agreed Naz, Intel is most likely supporting Microsoft like this and thanks to this agreement PC games from the 3 companies will rot. And I personally will hate to see an Epic game rot. 



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@Naz: Well, we don't know yet. But it seems to me that most supporters of Windows Live also tend to port their games to the 360, which is something that would not help pc gaming in the slightest, and if Intel's intention behind purchasing Offset was indeed to help PC gaming, then I can't see them doing that.

Though they may just be idiots. :)



naznatips said:

PC gaming or Microsoft? Because they aren't the same thing.


Amen!

This needs to be the new motto of PC enthusiast through the interwebs!  It really as a simple matter of the Windows Live service killing the PC gaming market.  It is basically taking one of the biggest advantages that PCs have and neutering it in the name of profit. 



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"if you sell 80,000 a month for 10 months that's a multi-million seller worldwide"

where did Mark Rein learn to multiply?

80,000*10=800,000



I don't really have anything else to contribute to this topic, since I'm not a PC gamer and as such I don't know much about the industry, but I will say that Cliffy B. is not an idiot--he's a great developer who knows how to make a great game.



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thekitchensink said:
"if you sell 80,000 a month for 10 months that's a multi-million seller worldwide"

where did Mark Rein learn to multiply?

80,000*10=800,000



I don't really have anything else to contribute to this topic, since I'm not a PC gamer and as such I don't know much about the industry, but I will say that Cliffy B. is not an idiot--he's a great developer who knows how to make a great game.

 I think he was simply saying that if you sell 800k over any 10 months after release you are gauranteed to hit 1m sales LTD....could be wrong but that is what I assumed he meant since I'm hoping he has had basic arithmetic.



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^^he said 'multi-' lol. But I jest, I'm not insulting the man's intelligence--it was a slip of the tongue



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