thismeintiel said:
VanceIX said:
People voiced their opinion, and that was that Eich was a bigoted person, whether it be true or not. They had every right and reason to do this, just as he had all the freedom in the world to donate for Prop 8. He reaped what he sowed, that's simply how the world is. If a newly appointed CEO was pro-slavery or a Nazi, would you say people should be open-minded of them? People will stand up for what they believe in, and if what they believe in is socially disgusting (as Prop 8 was, imo), then they will be chastised for it. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from speech.
That being said, I am not homosexual, but I am a supporter of gay rights, and believe that they should have access to marriage like the rest of us if they wish. I applaud the community for standing up for their beliefs.
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Again, there is a big difference between voicing ones opinion and actively campaigning to have someone fired for his. And can we please stop bringing up slavery and Nazis in these types of discussions? They are only strawmen and you know it. No one wants to put gay people and chains and whip them, so they'll do our work. And no one wants to put them in gas chambers and concentration camps. At least not in this country. Thinking about it, it amazes me how some can say that the US, as a society, is so cruel to gays, yet in some countries they are regularly tortured and killed for being who they are. I bet the gay communities in those countries wished they mostly had to worry about fighting for the right to marry, instead of the right to live.
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Other countries don't belong in this discussion, just because something is worse in another country doesn't mean that it can't be better here. And by your logic, wasn't Eich the one originally at fault anyway cause he 'actively campaigned' to prevent gay marriage? Your points contradict each other. Both OKCupid and Eich were well within the constraints of the law for what they did, but Eich did something that was seriously morably questionable (if not outright wrong), and OKCupid along with the Mozzila employees all exercised their freedom of speech to make a point against Eich. By your logic, if someone hated your race or wanted to infringe on your rights, and came into a major position of influence and power, would you simply calmy discuss it, and not take action against it? Like in case of a politician running for office, you wouldn't vote for them, and would probably try to convince others not to as well, correct? That is exactly what OKCupid and the employees did. Neither lobbied with actual money to politically prevent Eich to take his position as Eich did to prevent gay marriage, but they peacefully protested by posting on social networks and by posting a brief message on the homepage before users entered the site. All they did was exercise speech, that's it, and they made their opinion clear, and they took the high road compared to what Eich did.