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No problem, even on extremely large high def TV's, you can't see the difference if you are actually playing a game. It matters only when you are pixel counting. I have heard that is the true future of gaming!



It is near the end of the end....

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Wright said:
jacks81x said:
We also once survived without video games.


True, but back then, we had Pen & Paper Roleplaying to satisfy our needs.


First of all, what jacks81x said is a lie... I recall no such time, video games have been here since the beginning of time. As for your comment; what do you mean "back then"... speak for yourself, my regular Shadowrun game is every Monday at 7pm, my fortnightly Amber Diceless campaign only ended last Sunday, and my World Of Darkness campaign is starting back up this summer. I'd give up video games in a second if it was between them and roleplaying, pen and paper rules.

Honestly though, to address the OPs question... I have no freaken idea how we did it. I have a massive collection of PS2 and original Xbox games and yet I find myself not really wanting to replay them. I have classics like Ratchet & Clank, Hitman: Blood Money, Prince Of Persia etc. and I find myself buying the PS3 HD remakes because they just don't feel right any more. There's just something about pre-7th gen gaming that feels out-dated now and I say that fully aware that I actively collect both Saturn and Dreamcast games. What I think it most interesting though, and I'm not sure if I'm the only one who gets this but I find PS2, PSOne etc. outdated and looking a little worse for wear, and I find 8-bit gaming outdated, be it Atari, NES, or Master System; yet the 16-Bit era... Mega Drive, SNES, some early PSOne/Saturn 2D games (Castlevania: SOTN, Metal Slug X, and Spot Goes To Hollywood for example), these all seem timeless to me. Perhaps it's because I was old enough to appreciate them but young enough to feel nostalgic for them, but I can play games like the ones I mentioned; or the likes of Streets Of Rage, Donkey Kong Country or Kid Chameleon and they feel just as good as ever...



Landguy said:
No problem, even on extremely large high def TV's, you can't see the difference if you are actually playing a game. It matters only when you are pixel counting. I have heard that is the true future of gaming!


the future is telling others that they cant see a difference just because you cant.



People need justification to invest on a new platform. The fact is, if its to keep the same resolutions and Frames per seconds, why bother with new systems (from the consumer point of view)? There needs to be an upgrade.



fps_d0minat0r said:
Landguy said:
No problem, even on extremely large high def TV's, you can't see the difference if you are actually playing a game. It matters only when you are pixel counting. I have heard that is the true future of gaming!


the future is telling others that they cant see a difference just because you cant.

I didn't say that I can't see or that you can't.  I said that if you are playing a game, you can't possibly pixel count at the same time.



It is near the end of the end....

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Landguy said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
Landguy said:
No problem, even on extremely large high def TV's, you can't see the difference if you are actually playing a game. It matters only when you are pixel counting. I have heard that is the true future of gaming!


the future is telling others that they cant see a difference just because you cant.

I didn't say that I can't see or that you can't.  I said that if you are playing a game, you can't possibly pixel count at the same time.


"you can't see the difference if you are actually playing a game"



TornadoCreator said:

Honestly though, to address the OPs question... I have no freaken idea how we did it. I have a massive collection of PS2 and original Xbox games and yet I find myself not really wanting to replay them. I have classics like Ratchet & Clank, Hitman: Blood Money, Prince Of Persia etc. and I find myself buying the PS3 HD remakes because they just don't feel right any more. There's just something about pre-7th gen gaming that feels out-dated now and I say that fully aware that I actively collect both Saturn and Dreamcast games. What I think it most interesting though, and I'm not sure if I'm the only one who gets this but I find PS2, PSOne etc. outdated and looking a little worse for wear, and I find 8-bit gaming outdated, be it Atari, NES, or Master System; yet the 16-Bit era... Mega Drive, SNES, some early PSOne/Saturn 2D games (Castlevania: SOTN, Metal Slug X, and Spot Goes To Hollywood for example), these all seem timeless to me. Perhaps it's because I was old enough to appreciate them but young enough to feel nostalgic for them, but I can play games like the ones I mentioned; or the likes of Streets Of Rage, Donkey Kong Country or Kid Chameleon and they feel just as good as ever...


I think it's because the SNES / Mega Drive era is seen upon as the pinnacle of 2D gaming, while PS1 / N64 was a really early 3D era. Though I have different feelings than you, I like many games from mostly every era.



Yep.

Been gaming at 1600x1200 since quake 1, pucker up console lovers.



What year are we living in?



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Nem said:

People need justification to invest on a new platform. The fact is, if its to keep the same resolutions and Frames per seconds, why bother with new systems (from the consumer point of view)? There needs to be an upgrade.

1) You're out of touch with the AVERAGE consumer point of view.

2) There is more to graphics than resolution and frames per second.

3) "Upgrading" to 1080p and 60 fps at all times means lower quality visuals.



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