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Nintendo should see the cycle through to the end and throw as much support at Wii U as they can. The console has been on market for 1 year and 4 months, its sold 6 million and is still in its infancy. There is room to improve the install base by pushing out compelling software and there is still time to make profits. Nintendo do not need to rush out hardware in a panic and they certainly cant afford to piss off 6 million people. Take your time Nintendo and build something special that will capture the gamers imagination, whilst that is going on support Wii U and gain trust and momentum going into the next gen.



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I would be extremely pissed off. I think the Wii U is one of the finest consoles of all time, and much like the Dreamcast before it, it exists at a time where it's goals and mine coincide. I can be playing Donkey Kong or Mario on the GamePad while having something else on the main TV, like a sitcom, stand up comedy, or comfortable show I know well like Buffy The Vampire Slayer. I can lay in bed and play like I do with my Vita/3DS. This is how I want my console. This is perfect for me...

What I want from Nintendo is a one-console solution. A console that is both a home console and a true handheld in one. When you're in the house you use the TV and GamePad, but on the move you can take the GamePad with you, like you would your DS and play it on the move. You could even have it backwards compatible with both the Wii U and 3DS games. Allowing you to play Wii U games on the move, and play 3DS games on your big TV. This is the future I hope Nintendo go for, I'm not sure how they'd do it exactly, but it'd be awesome if they could. I'm watching out eagerly for the announcement of the Nintendo DSU in 2017-2018, and if it happens I will name myself forever a loyal Nintendo fan.

What I don't want though is a Hardcore HD Console, filled with grizzled brown haired men with guns grimacing at each other. We have plenty of consoles who do that already. I would consider it the death of Nintendo if they actively started courting the Playstation/Xbox gamers with promises of hardcore testosterone romps. I would morn them and move on. The last bastion of the carefree fun, Nintendo must remain as it is... it cannot die, it was hard enough losing Sega, let's not do that again.

So, would I be angry, YES! I'd be fucking livid. It would be an outright betrayal. You have 6 million people here Nintendo, and likely another 6 million still wanting to join who are simply waiting till they have the money to jump in, or waiting for a game like Smash Bros. or Mario Kart to make the switch over. I know at least 4 people who are currently saying, "I'm thinking of getting a Wii U soon". These people all believe in you. Don't let us down for the millions of CoD-kiddies out there who couldn't give a rats arse about Nintendo. We saved the princess, we killed mother brain, we rescued the seven sages. We threw the red shell, we captured the pikachu, and we found the banana horde. We're here to stay... look after us and you'll get my money every year, I promise you that Nintendo. If you leave us for the CoD-kiddies though, I won't be coming back. Have you seen what Mistress Sony can do with an OLED screen? Think about it.



TornadoCreator said:
I would be extremely pissed off. I think the Wii U is one of the finest consoles of all time, and much like the Dreamcast before it, it exists at a time where it's goals and mine coincide. I can be playing Donkey Kong or Mario on the GamePad while having something else on the main TV, like a sitcom, stand up comedy, or comfortable show I know well like Buffy The Vampire Slayer. I can lay in bed and play like I do with my Vita/3DS. This is how I want my console. This is perfect for me...

What I want from Nintendo is a one-console solution. A console that is both a home console and a true handheld in one. When you're in the house you use the TV and GamePad, but on the move you can take the GamePad with you, like you would your DS and play it on the move. You could even have it backwards compatible with both the Wii U and 3DS games. Allowing you to play Wii U games on the move, and play 3DS games on your big TV. This is the future I hope Nintendo go for, I'm not sure how they'd do it exactly, but it'd be awesome if they could. I'm watching out eagerly for the announcement of the Nintendo DSU in 2017-2018, and if it happens I will name myself forever a loyal Nintendo fan.

What I don't want though is a Hardcore HD Console, filled with grizzled brown haired men with guns grimacing at each other. We have plenty of consoles who do that already. I would consider it the death of Nintendo if they actively started courting the Playstation/Xbox gamers with promises of hardcore testosterone romps. I would morn them and move on. The last bastion of the carefree fun, Nintendo must remain as it is... it cannot die, it was hard enough losing Sega, let's not do that again.

So, would I be angry, YES! I'd be fucking livid. It would be an outright betrayal. You have 6 million people here Nintendo, and likely another 6 million still wanting to join who are simply waiting till they have the money to jump in, or waiting for a game like Smash Bros. or Mario Kart to make the switch over. I know at least 4 people who are currently saying, "I'm thinking of getting a Wii U soon". These people all believe in you. Don't let us down for the millions of CoD-kiddies out there who couldn't give a rats arse about Nintendo. We saved the princess, we killed mother brain, we rescued the seven sages. We threw the red shell, we captured the pikachu, and we found the banana horde. We're here to stay... look after us and you'll get my money every year, I promise you that Nintendo. If you leave us for the CoD-kiddies though, I won't be coming back. Have you seen what Mistress Sony can do with an OLED screen? Think about it.

Yeah it's great that Nintendo is different, but at the same time I think 90% of shoppers are starting to say they don't want to buy a console just for 3-4 Nintendo games a year. If people are going to invest $200-$500 on a home console they expect access to a full library of content from all developers, and honestly I can't blame the consumer for expecting this. When you buy a Blu-Ray or DVD player would you be OK with just 4-6 high quality movies released on it per year? 

I think the name of the entertainment business has simply  changed from one in which companies' could dictate what consumers would buy and how to a new era where consumers say "we want the widest variety of content and we want to consume it how we want, not how you tell us". That's how the smartphone/tablet has emboldened consumers, they expect more nowadays, how a lot of companies did business in the 80s and 90s simply doesn't cut the mustard any more (this goes for Sony as much as Nintendo, but their video game division at least has their act together). This is why a lot of people simply won't touch a Windows phone, no matter how high quality it is ... it doesn't have access to same number of apps as iOS or Google Play offer. 

The Super NES was fairly similar hardware wise and even library wise (in some ways) to the Sega Genesis? Do you confuse the two even remotely? Of course not. A Nintendo console is always unique for the fact that it has Nintendo exclusives on it, it doesn't need a controller shaped like a sex toy or be painted purple to stand out. Nintendo hardware is always distinct even if they do pump up the testeroterone ... the N64 was certainly a bit more testerterone fused than say the Wii, but that doesn't make it a Playstation derivative. 

I think internally too, Nintendo's main enemey may actually not be Sony/MS anymore, that may also be a dated perspective. There are plenty of cartoony games making a huge impact on the market ... the problem is they are sheparding in the age of the 99 cent "throwaway" game (but you notice how many cartoony console games are flopping nowadays? W101, Rayman, Tearaway, Puppeteer, LBP Karting, etc. etc.). That audience is being eaten up smartphones/tablets ... perhaps the time has come for Nintendo to consider a more balanced approach, going back maybe more to a N64-style approach, just one that isn't crippled without third party games. 



As long as I get four years of games, I'm happy.



That would be a terrible idea unless the give the 6 million of us a free upgrade for it. Also, supporting the Wii U and another home console would be too much work, considering 3rd Parties would probably refuse to support the console regardless of horsepower and graphics.



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If Nintendo made more games for the new console than Wii U I would be mad.



PikminDude123 said:
If Nintendo made more games for the new console than Wii U I would be mad.


The Nintendo games would the same for both Wii U and the new system. 

They'd just run at a higher res or something on the new console but otherwise they'd be the same games (at least for the first couple of years). 

Not so dissimilar to how iPad and iPhone can run the same apps. 



How much would this console thats as powerful as PS4+X1 combined cost? And why would the gamers that prefer the big 3rd party titles switch to Nintendo if they already have a console that caters to them? By fall 2015-2016 the sports/racing/shooter/sandbox/western RPG crowds will be firmly established on the competitors consoles



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

RolStoppable said:
Soundwave, you have yet to address why third parties should develop for this high-end Nintendo console.


Because third parties can't ignore viable platforms any longer. 

As long as Nintendo doesn't pull anything stupid like making the system a generation behind the base PC version most developers make their game around (causing huge headaches when it comes to porting a game). It has to be EASY to port games with no fuss and no requirement on devs to bend over backwards to accomodate some weird propietary platform. 

Nintendo should be the one to accomodate third parties, not the other way around. That's one fundamental area where Nintendo is simply going to have to eat crow on, it's a stupid, pointless battle to try and win anyway. 

But the reality of game development today is simply put these modern games cost so much money to develop nowadays that a developer cannot afford to ignore any viable platform. As long as it doesn't require a lot of fuss to port, they will port it. 

As a sweetner though, I'd suggest Nintendo waive most or even all third party licensing fees for the first 8-12 months. It's not like they're getting a ton now, that would give developers a pretty huge incentive to develop and support the platform strongly from day 1 because they'd be making $10 more profit for every copy they sell on the Nintendo version versus a PS4/X1 version. 



zorg1000 said:
How much would this console thats as powerful as PS4+X1 combined cost? And why would the gamers that prefer the big 3rd party titles switch to Nintendo if they already have a console that caters to them? By fall 2015-2016 the sports/racing/shooter/sandbox/western RPG crowds will be firmly established on the competitors consoles


Well a AMD 7970 GPU which is $399.99 at the consumer level today in early 2014. That clocks in at 3.87 TFLOPs, which is more than the PS4 + X1 combined (1.8TFLOPS + 1.2 TFLOPS). That's obviously a basic breakdown, but truth is such a GPU would smoke a PS4 or X1 and probably will be a lot more affordable to Nintendo by late 2015.