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superchunk said:
pokoko said:
I absolutely agree. When Nintendo launched the 3DS at $250, I thought, "this company doesn't care about money, they only care about the consumer."

I think I shall join with you in this pact! The games themselves aren't really that important.

I never said Nintendo doesn't strive to make money; it just does so by delivering honest value.

But had 3DS had quality game content, it would have sold hand over fist at $250, just as the XL does now at $200. 3DS at launch simply wasn't worth that price and thankfully had the margin to lower its price to create the proper value to price ratio.

Wii U can't.

The 3DS at $250 at launch was one of the biggest ripoffs this industry has ever seen.  That's fine with me, honestly, I can't blame a company for trying, but the margin they were going for with the 3DS was pretty much unheard of.  They were rubbing their hands together, thinking that, after the success of the DS, people would be lining up no matter what was dangled in front of them.  It was one of the single biggest instances of hubris and greed in the modern era of gaming.  It's easily up there with Sony expecting their fans to eat the cost of Blu-Ray so they could win the format war or Microsoft putting access to video services behind a paywall.  They were planning to shove the 3DS in sideways without any lube.

Now, if you want to say, "no, no, they're Nintendo, they wouldn't do that," go ahead.  Hey, maybe they were planning to put some of that money into a trust fund for their customers.  



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RolStoppable said:
superchunk said:

Shut it packer.

I'm just done with others.

Does that mean you will buy Nintendo products new now instead of used?

:) ohhh you're tricky one.

Games, absolutely. I've stopped buying used games and in fact, I'd prefer digital.

Hardware... home consoles yes. portables for my kids who may or may not take care of them... used.



superchunk said:
TheJimbo1234 said:

Nintendo just give you the same game time and time again..............that is better because?!

Most games are shit now for screwing you over in some form. This is why you wait and get the game + all DLC on steam for $1 or bargin bin 6 months after launch.

same game time and time again is the entirety of what EA creates.

Nintendo's Super Mario and other IPs are 100% new and completely different games each iteration. There's a reason they sell more on one console than Madden/FIFA and other crap sells on all cosnoles combined.

You clearly do not play Nintendo hardware and are basing your logic on fantasy ignorant beliefs held by self-proclaimed core gamers.

But EA have not been doing it for 25 years and at least they do try something new every now and then.

You are kidding yourself if you think Nintendos IPs are even vaguely different. Get a platformer which isn't and IP that is 25 years old....oh, not possible. They sell more because owners have no choice! If you want a platformer, you better buy Mario or you get nothing.



pokoko said:

The 3DS at $250 at launch was one of the biggest ripoffs this industry has ever seen. 

Isn't the Vita also the biggest ripoff the industry has ever seen? A console at $200 that barely has games? It's more than a ripoff it's a robbery.



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pokoko said:

The 3DS at $250 at launch was one of the biggest ripoffs this industry has ever seen.  That's fine with me, honestly, I can't blame a company for trying, but the margin they were going for with the 3DS was pretty much unheard of.  They were rubbing their hands together, thinking that, after the success of the DS, people would be lining up no matter what was dangled in front of them.  It was one of the single biggest instances of hubris and greed in the modern era of gaming.  It's easily up there with Sony expecting their fans to eat the cost of Blu-Ray so they could win the format war or Microsoft putting access to video services behind a paywall.  They were planning to shove the 3DS in sideways without any lube.

Now, if you want to say, "no, no, they're Nintendo, they wouldn't do that," go ahead.  Hey, maybe they were planning to put some of that money into a trust fund for their customers.  

Again. Had 3DS launched with actual games, $250 would have been fine. Personally, I would have waited for $200, but $250 would have sold well.

Apple products have far higher margins as do pretty much anything "audio" market related. Just sayin' margins do not prove or disprove the value to price ratio. The perceived value is what is important.

I don't like Apple so I don't perceive their high value. But I happily pay $350 to $400 for out of contract brand new Nexus phones. I happily paid $350 for a Wii U. If I bought a 3DS for myself, I'd happily pay the $200 for a Zelda themed XL. At that point I'm not considering the margin the company is making. I'm only considering what its value is to me.



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JGarret said:
chunk, just curious, what prompted you to make this thread today?...any recent events that set it off?


Yah seriously what's with the tone in the OP?



TheFallen said:
DLC for Zelda could be epic if done right
Whole new areas could be added with new weapons and collectibles.

No that's a horrible idea



Anfebious said:
pokoko said:
 

The 3DS at $250 at launch was one of the biggest ripoffs this industry has ever seen. 

Isn't the Vita also the biggest ripoff the industry has ever seen? A console at $200 that barely has games? It's more than a ripoff it's a robbery.


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TheJimbo1234 said:

But EA have not been doing it for 25 years and at least they do try something new every now and then.

You are kidding yourself if you think Nintendos IPs are even vaguely different. Get a platformer which isn't and IP that is 25 years old....oh, not possible. They sell more because owners have no choice! If you want a platformer, you better buy Mario or you get nothing.

Yeah because DKC doesn't exist and is as good or better than Mario (and both are better than any other platformer... with Rayman's last two being a close set).

Sure Nintendo doesn't make certain genres like FPS... but they offer continuous quality and new gameplay each and every time.

Just take 2D marios and you'll see that they are completly new games with each iteration. Offering new ways to play a similar core idea. New challenges, new suprises, and new gameplay. Just the core idea of primary characters and platforming is continued.

Its kinda the reason Mario has never died off where Mega Man, Sonic, <insert every other franchise character not made by Nintendo> have gone away.