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What is his end state

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megaman79 on 11 March 2015

I am so sick and tired of seeing America invade countries. It's hard being your ally.



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WorldBreakerHulk on 11 March 2015
mai said:
WorldBreakerHulk said:

the US used to have base in Subic but the contract wasn't renewed so they were kcicked out in the '90's, so the US having bases here isn't new. And China already pushed that 9dash line(tongue like border) way before the renegotiation of the US base here. And Bases or no bases China already claimed an island that is in our Exclusive Economic Zone even before a renegotiation was considered. Even Vietnam is now seeking Closer ties to the US. There's a bright side though, Vietnam, Phil and Japans military ties are getting stronger.

So effectively you're US proxies, and no hard feelings, I didn't say anything wrong after all. But you just came at random thread, brought that old forgotten topic and haven't found a better way to do it than throw some accusations at me? M-a-akes perfect sense, while the discussion does not.
mai said:
WorldBreakerHulk said:

the US used to have base in Subic but the contract wasn't renewed so they were kcicked out in the '90's, so the US having bases here isn't new. And China already pushed that 9dash line(tongue like border) way before the renegotiation of the US base here. And Bases or no bases China already claimed an island that is in our Exclusive Economic Zone even before a renegotiation was considered. Even Vietnam is now seeking Closer ties to the US. There's a bright side though, Vietnam, Phil and Japans military ties are getting stronger.

So effectively you're US proxies, and no hard feelings, I didn't say anything wrong after all. But you just came at random thread, brought that old forgotten topic and haven't found a better way to do it than throw some accusations at me? M-a-akes perfect sense, while the discussion does not.


"c) proxy in the given context was supposed to mean that one political subject acts  in favour of another subject's interests (sometimes its own interests as well"

IMo we are acting on our own accord. In short I consider the Phil a US proxy as much as you consider Russia a China Proxy.

Uhh what? I gave my opinion about russias presence in esst Ukraine and told the other poster about you anti west and dismissive attitutede to anything not pro russian since he might just stop debating you in that subject bec imo you are already dead set ob your belief.



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Sharu on 11 March 2015
Lortsamler said:
Sharu said:

Since you say Sweden and Norway are preparing smth and also that USA just get a lot of tanks to Latvia recently, I'd say its Russia who should be prepared for attack from NATO side. Its bad... ((


I think Russia is pretty safe. Anyone that dare attack Russia need a lot of guts,lol You simply don't fuck with the Russian :p

Yeah... but every century we fighting some kind of united europe, sadly. Karl XII in 18th century. Napoleon in 19th century. Hitler - 20th century. I hope me and my children won't see next ones trying to invade Russia. Or we just have to fight back, as always...



TheJimbo1234 on 11 March 2015
mai said:

TheJimbo1234 said:

 By definition shrapnel is plural, so why did you say "a shrapnel"?

Oh, grammar Nazis are on the loose! Mister, I'm expert in treating psychotic disorders with symptoms like seeing KGB agents or Putin trolls everywhere. Butthurt personalities are treated elsewhere.

Would be nice if you could bring anything to the discussion -- like the very same proofs for every sentence you posted so far -- I'm not a lap dog to do the research job for you. I think I brought enough data to the thread so far, your turn.

There’s being pedantic about grammar, and then there is just screwing up using the English language and not knowing how to use basic words. You did the latter buddy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17

Bam - go check all the references in that. It is pretty damning with numerous experts all backing up my/99% of peoples views on this topic.



mai on 11 March 2015
TheJimbo1234 said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17

Bam - go check all the references in that. It is pretty damning with numerous experts all backing up my/99% of peoples views on this topic.

Not nearly good enough, try harder.



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TheJimbo1234 on 12 March 2015
mai said:
TheJimbo1234 said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17

Bam - go check all the references in that. It is pretty damning with numerous experts all backing up my/99% of peoples views on this topic.

Not nearly good enough, try harder.


No, that won't fly here. Every statement in there has a reference which is proof. If you won't accept that, then clearly you won't accept anything which does not support your agenda. SImply put; what would it take for you to change your mind?



Sharu on 12 March 2015
TheJimbo1234 said:
mai said:

Not nearly good enough, try harder.


No, that won't fly here. Every statement in there has a reference which is proof. If you won't accept that, then clearly you won't accept anything which does not support your agenda. SImply put; what would it take for you to change your mind?

Some links to the 'proofs' as you say lead to some 'investigations' made by 'independent journalists' over internet. Some - to the fake accounts in the social networks. 
It seems your understanding of 'proof' is very different from the general meaning of that word. 

Also, if you'd try to speak Russian on this forums, i'm sure me and mai will let you do some mistakes in the wordings/phrase construction. Since it obviously will be mistakes. English is not my or mai's first language. And for me is much more important to speak/discuss things with people than to make my wordings ideal.



TheJimbo1234 on 12 March 2015
Sharu said:
TheJimbo1234 said:


No, that won't fly here. Every statement in there has a reference which is proof. If you won't accept that, then clearly you won't accept anything which does not support your agenda. SImply put; what would it take for you to change your mind?

Some links to the 'proofs' as you say lead to some 'investigations' made by 'independent journalists' over internet. Some - to the fake accounts in the social networks. 
It seems your understanding of 'proof' is very different from the general meaning of that word. 

Also, if you'd try to speak Russian on this forums, i'm sure me and mai will let you do some mistakes in the wordings/phrase construction. Since it obviously will be mistakes. English is not my or mai's first language. And for me is much more important to speak/discuss things with people than to make my wordings ideal.

Wiki does not allow for crappy sources, so how have those ones slipped through the net as you claim? 

Also did you just say that mai is Russian?



mai on 12 March 2015
TheJimbo1234 said:
Sharu said:

Some links to the 'proofs' as you say lead to some 'investigations' made by 'independent journalists' over internet. Some - to the fake accounts in the social networks. 
It seems your understanding of 'proof' is very different from the general meaning of that word. 

Also, if you'd try to speak Russian on this forums, i'm sure me and mai will let you do some mistakes in the wordings/phrase construction. Since it obviously will be mistakes. English is not my or mai's first language. And for me is much more important to speak/discuss things with people than to make my wordings ideal.

Wiki does not allow for crappy sources, so how have those ones slipped through the net as you claim?

This comes from account not associated with Girkin as it claimed:
"Immediately after the crash, a post appeared on the VKontakte social media website attributed to Igor Girkin, leader of the Donbass separatists, claiming responsibility for shooting down an AN-26".

This audiotape is a montage with cuts in the middle of the phrases and all: "Pro-Russian rebels discuss the shooting down of an aircraft" -- by far not the first one from SBU.

From the alleged witness interviewed by Reuters: "The rocket was here, it wiggled around, then some kind of rocket stage separated, and then, somewhere toward Lutuhyne, Torez, I saw the plane fall apart in the air. It was only later that we found out it was a Boeing" -- 9M38, Buk missile, has only one stage, so it can't separate anything. But ok, a witness report it is, why not post half a dozen wintess reports that claim they saw a military airplane there at the moment of the crash?

And so on and so forth.

Wiki is a free content and free access , nothing more, nothing less, therefore allows a lot of crap.



Sharu on 13 March 2015
TheJimbo1234 said:
Sharu said:

Some links to the 'proofs' as you say lead to some 'investigations' made by 'independent journalists' over internet. Some - to the fake accounts in the social networks. 
It seems your understanding of 'proof' is very different from the general meaning of that word. 

Also, if you'd try to speak Russian on this forums, i'm sure me and mai will let you do some mistakes in the wordings/phrase construction. Since it obviously will be mistakes. English is not my or mai's first language. And for me is much more important to speak/discuss things with people than to make my wordings ideal.

Also did you just say that mai is Russian?

oh, you just realise it? Slowpoke is so slow...