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What is his end state

Annex Ukraine As a whole 337 40.60%
 
Annex Crimea 286 34.46%
 
Defend Russian People Fro... 184 22.17%
 
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ArnoldRimmer said:
mai said:

Thanks you, Kasz. Talking to you is as enjoyable as banging the head against the wall :D And mind you, it is as productive.

Just stop it then. There's no point in discussing with people whose postings are so full of insults and personal attacks like kasz's latest postings, which sound like he's trying to master "the ultimate strategem" in Schopenhauer's "the art of being right": "A last trick is to become personal, insulting, rude, as soon as you perceive that your opponent has the upper hand, and that you are going to come off worst."

I seriously wonder how he became a moderator with this kind of behaviour.

I got to be a moderator due to my ability to detect bullshit and be able to evaluate data.  

Well that and generally not being moderated specifically because of the above, on the off cases where I do say stuff like this, it's valid.

Again, what I posted wasn't supposed to be insulting.  Just a general explination on why people don't bother to engage him anymore.  

He's been waging a war of sematics for god knows how many posts, when the evidence is staring him directly in the face.  Direct from government records in which the Russian government had no excuse to falsify.

I mean again...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_Holodomor#Extensive_export_of_grain_and_other_food

 

Officially published data [45] differed slightly:

Cereals (in tonnes):

  • 1930 – 4,846,024
  • 1931 – 5,182,835
  • 1932 – 1,819,114 (~750,000 during the first half of 1932; from late April ~157,000 tonnes of grain was also imported)
  • 1933 – 1,771,364 (~220,000 during the first half of 1933;[46] from late March grain was also imported[47])

Only wheat (in tonnes):

  • 1930 – 2,530,953
  • 1931 – 2,498,958
  • 1932 – 550,917
  • 1933 – 748,248
They took food from starving areas... sent paltry sums back and those areas suffered the vast majority of the famine casualties.   Ignoring facts staring him in his face is just typical Mai, and this is why people just don't bother with him anymore.  It's not an insult.  It's just the truth.

The thing is too, Mai cares enough to already have known this.   He's not just ignoring something that's been staring at him in the face for a few posts.  He's been disregarding it since the moment the whole famine was mentioned.
The only reason I bother is because everyonce in a while something like Zeitgeist can trick someone when not properly researched.  



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ArnoldRimmer said:
Kasz216 said:

Sort of misses the whole first part of the event....

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27275383

Whatever you're trying to say.

You can't see the difference?


Struggle starts at the beggining of the day that causes back and forth fighting until a shanty town is destroyed and a unionhouse is burnt down is a bit different then Shanty town is destroyed and union house is burned down by itself.

 

It's like looking at Palestinian terror attacks without the motivation behind them, doing so just makes the palestinians look more ghastly then they really are, even if said attacks aren't justifiable either way.





2 hour video? :/
What it trying to show exactly?



German newspaper writes about 400 US mercenaries fighting in Ukraine against people of Lugansk and Donetsk
www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article127862117/Hunderte-US-Soeldner-sollen-fuer-Kiew-im-Einsatz-sein.html#disqus_thread
1. Is this hewspaper ok or is it junkpress?
2. If it is legit, should be started a UN investigation regarding USA firing civil war in Ukraine? Maybe we need some sanctions from EU to USA, or we need to put NATO bases closer to agressors (usa) borders?



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ummm, EU and NATO are lapdogs of US, not gonna happen)



Putin said:
ummm, EU and NATO are lapdogs of US, not gonna happen)

I thought that was an obvious sarcasm...



Maybe it wasn't clear enough, or it was the one that required an answer ;)



)))) Bomb it!



If CNN says that this is Ukraine, it must be it ;)