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bigjon said:
Joex2 said:
Sony leaving is good


If it were not for Sony you woulr be playing a pre 180 xb1. 

you would be playing very unadvanced consoles that had much less advanced games because the market would be smaller.  Before Sony came along the highest selling console ever had only 60m sales and that was when it had 90% of the market (NES).  Sony came in and the market expanded.  100m for a new player and such a huge company entering video games was unprecedented.  The game market simply would not be the same without Sony.  Then MS came and began stealing Sony's fanbase that they had created.




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Why don't Sony leave, obviously they don't have the money to continue!



Wright said:

If you think a monopoly drives up creativitiness and makes people being more risky...

 

...I'm afraid you're wrong.


This. I want all three to survive at this point.



Yep.

Microsoft leaving the console race will not be good for gamers, at the very least Microsoft with the xbox brand has given Sony's Playstation competition and it creates for healthier situation for gamers, plublisher, and developers. I may be a Playstation fan, but I see the value of Xbox in the market, and how it drove Sony to be more competitive improving my console of choice, and in return Microsoft improving their console, this end up being great for gamers as we get the best we can.

Nintendo leaving the console business on the other hand would be a GOD send, it needs to happen and needs to happen soon, they aren't competitive, and their software is currently stuck behind hardware no one wants. People love Nintendo because of their software, their software defines them, so having their software on other hardware (like xbox, playstation) would be a huge gain to ALL gamers who would no longer be forced to purchase shitty hardware with limited functions, hell this would be good for Nintendo as well. Nintendo gaining access to a huge install base across the xbox and playstation brands along with not having the hardware overhead would yield incredible financial results.

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We live in a technological age where it's all about the software and software eco systems, it is no longer purely about hardware, especially so because hardware has become very homogenized. So the differentiator is software and the software eco system. Software gets people into the system and the eco system keeps them in, then if you build your hardware around that eco system people will buy it.

If we look at Apple and Google we see that one has a closed product line designed, made, and sold under Apple, while the other has multiple manufacturers designing, making, and selling their products with Android. The one KEY thing they both share, and it's something which has been critical to their success, is their software eco system. One of the most recent companies to do this is Valve, they built their software eco system with steam and are now moving towards hardware (whether steam machines will be successful or not is another question).

If we look at xbox live and Playstation network, we can clearly see that they both have an eco system which people care about enough to buy both software and hardware. Sony of the two has broadened it's eco system through the Plus incentive accross the last gen, current gen, and handhelds as well as dabbling in the mobile with PlayStation mobile. Xbox on the other hand is trying to broaden it's eco system not by making it available on different hardware, but rather by bringing in more software from other places like the TV markets (again whether it's successful or not is not the question)

Nintendo on the other hand has great software but a poor eco system and hardware, so poor that not even 3rd party publishers or developers want to touch it. One of Nintendo's greatest assets and one with the greatest potential was the VC, Nintendo could have had the service be hardware agnostic, meaning that if you had 1 VC game it could be played on the Wii, WiiU, and 3DS since the emulators would be simple enough to run across all the different hardware. This would of tied people to the eco system, and yet none of these 3 consoles had a unified account system to achieve this goal. Even now that the 3DS and WiiU have a unified account the VC remains fragmented, currently there seems to be no indication that this will change. It also doesn't help that digital software is locked to hardware rather than an account system with user controlled DRM like so many other companies.

So again Nintendo leaving the console market would free their software from the shackles of their archaic hardware, and allow their software to blossom rather than being held back. A benefit to gamers is a benefit to Nintendo. Imagine if Super Mario 3d world was available on PS3 & Xbox360, I could foresee it doing GTA5 numbers.

anyways, that's my 2 cents, take it or leave it, that's up to you.



stabface said:
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Monopolies are bad bro. You ever taken econ 101? You should. Not only would it be a Monopoly it could potentially be a Monopsony ( dont let the sony at the end fool you, this is a real word and basically means the opposite of a Monopoly, on the demand side, where you either have only ONE buyer or you have only ONE gateway for people to buy your product ).

SONY would have a monopoly in supplying consoles to us, therefore could jack prices way high with zero competition. There would be no insentive to give us consumers the best product they could make. Instead they could make very minor updates, charge a load of money for it, and we could do nothing about it because there would be no alternative to buy from.

SONY would also have a monopsony in who could be allowed onto their console. They could charge developers _whatever_ they wanted, make whatever requirements they wanted, kickbacks, etc and there would be nothing developers could do about it because there would be no alternative console. 

You're trying to wow us with your education when your argument has large holes in it?  What about substitute platforms like pc or the ever growing mobile sector? If you're gonna use those ten dollar words then please put some thought into it.  You also forgot about Nintendo.


I was going off his premise that Nintendo is a non-competitor and in that same vein that PCs and mobile devices are not Consoles per say. For a customer like me I only really game through SONY/MS/Nintendo. If two of them drop off then thats bad for me as a consumer and bad for developers.

Be less defensive mate. I was only sharing a word I thought was neat. 



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I wont say i disagree with the statement, but that isnt the logic i would go for. I would simply evoke their anti-consumer practices.



this thread topic, has to be a complete joke. because its complete nonsense



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Anybody else think that it would be good if Sony left?



I dont like the way of MS treat to gammer. BUT I think MS leave will do more harm than good. All the time, the most benefit one from competition is the consumers, ALWAYS bro