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Should white people be allowed in the conversation of multiethnicity?

Yes-White people are multiethnic, too 52 70.27%
 
No - they don't understand the struggles 2 2.70%
 
I didn't even know this was a problem 13 17.57%
 
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Tigerlure said:

I always hated this argument. Do you ever think about why channels like BET exist? Please think about it for a minute before responding to this post, and you'll find out why there's not a "White TV" or "White Miss America". If you legitimately still do not understand, I'll help you fill in the gaps.


Please, spell it out for me. I'd love to hear someone explain the difference in what people of differences can do.



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No, white people should never engage in discussions about race.



Lawlight said:
Zkuq said:
Multiethnicity is relevant mainly in countries where white populace is the majority so yes, definitely. The people of a country should have a say in what kinds of people they let in their country.

What?

OK, I'm not entirely sure if that's true but that's not my point. The latter sentence is my point. I'm just guessing the first one is true because countries where white populace is the majority are generally attractive countries for immigrants and it's a really relevant topic here. I'm guessing it's not as relevent in other countries, even though I'm sure it is somewhat relevant elsewhere too. But the thing is, if we limit the discussion to ethnicity, it's probably safe to say that multiethnicity is relevant mainly is countries where white populace is the majority or a few Asian countries. Could be wrong though, feel free to prove me wrong if I am wrong. Still, I think my second sentence is more important! It's more general.



There is no such thing as "white" people. The only people who even fit that label, are people who consider themselves to be "white", IE aren't educated to or just don't care at all about their own roots and family background.

There is not a person on this planet that isn't "ethnic", or even "multiethnic", so while I get the context of "white people don't understand what non-white people have dealt with or have to go to", there certainly is some validity to that in this country. But if we exclude one people or "white" ethnicities from the conversation, that is not progressive or terribly productive, at all.



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Tigerlure said:
rolltide101x said:
RG3Hunna said:
I'm black and I think all races should contribute in the discussion of race however as a black man I always wanted to know the discrimination white people experience?

I hear a lot of my close white friends tell me white people are the most discriminated against and all the other races are the most racist but then I ask them how are they discriminated against and they have absolutely ZERO responses where they personally experienced discrimination lol.

Please give me some experiences on the discrimination whites experience, I always wondered how it would be to be white and what type of racial stereotypes/racism white people experience.


The U.S. government discriminates against white people each and every day. But I have posts earlier in this thread that talks about a personal experience of mine about being discriminated against.

 

The main type of discrimination that white people suffer is not directly what happens it is what does not happen and what we can not do. If white people made a channel called "White TV" or had the "White Miss America" then Jesse Jackson would go crazy screaming racism and they would be shut down

I always hated this argument. Do you ever think about why channels like BET exist? Please think about it for a minute before responding to this post, and you'll find out why there's not a "White TV" or "White Miss America". If you legitimately still do not understand, I'll help you fill in the gaps.

There are far more black people on tv than their % of the population. WAY more than 12% of people on tv are black, terrible point



RG3Hunna said:
rolltide101x said:
RG3Hunna said:
I'm black and I think all races should contribute in the discussion of race however as a black man I always wanted to know the discrimination white people experience?

I hear a lot of my close white friends tell me white people are the most discriminated against and all the other races are the most racist but then I ask them how are they discriminated against and they have absolutely ZERO responses where they personally experienced discrimination lol.

Please give me some experiences on the discrimination whites experience, I always wondered how it would be to be white and what type of racial stereotypes/racism white people experience.


The U.S. government discriminates against white people each and every day. But I have posts earlier in this thread that talks about a personal experience of mine about being discriminated against.

 

The main type of discrimination that white people suffer is not directly what happens it is what does not happen and what we can not do. If white people made a channel called "White TV" or had the "White Miss America" then Jesse Jackson would go crazy screaming racism and they would be shut down

Do you not understand white people have that now, they don't have to call it "White TV" !!! When you turn on the TV, you see white models, whites in commericals, white dominated TV shows. Do me a favor and search "Beautiful women" on google....there's 3 black women that show up while there's 100's of white women that show up when you search and click "Images"

Lets use an an example we all would understand, when we play video games how many times is the main character white? You have so much white privelage and some of you complain about some "Discrimination" you guys experience as a white person and it's laughable. The only negative I've seen of being white is you can't use the N word. I would love to trade my black skin for your white skin and you can use the N word all you want and not be called a racist and i'll take your privelage of being able to walk in stores without being followed like i'm a criminal or being able to walk around with weed in my pocket and knowing I wont get stopped/harrassed and them searching my pockets because i'm white and I don't fit the discription. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuyMuLGXxTs

Here's an example of being white in america vs being black in america, but yea white people are the most discriminated race in this country and have it sooooooo hard.........

and if I google "Dumb guys" a bunch of white guys come up so what is your point?

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1301&bih=617&q=dumb+guys&oq=dumb+guys&gs_l=img.3..0l10.1092.3702.0.3901.11.11.0.0.0.0.485.2435.0j3j1j0j4.8.0....0...1ac.1.36.img..6.5.1061.Cv4aq9rWBwQ



Jumpin said:
kirby007 said:
White people are actually the most discriminated people ever

This is about the dumbest thing I have ever read on this matter.

Very easily, white people do have a MUCH easier time in any country I have ever been in. Even countries where white people are a small minority. White people are by far the least discriminated against people. In the US, people were murdered and enslaved for being non-white, even as late the 1940's where the US was rounding up people and putting them in concentration camps based on their East-Asian ethnicity.

Maybe gay white people are discriminated against, particularly in Russia and the US, but sexuality is outside of ethnic reasoning.

OMG, he clearly meant "now". If he does believe "ever" he is incorrect though

 

White people are by far the most discriminated against group in the United States

Hispanics are 2nd



Jumpin said:
kirby007 said:
White people are actually the most discriminated people ever

This is about the dumbest thing I have ever read on this matter.

Very easily, white people do have a MUCH easier time in any country I have ever been in. Even countries where white people are a small minority. White people are by far the least discriminated against people. In the US, people were murdered and enslaved for being non-white, even as late the 1940's where the US was rounding up people and putting them in concentration camps based on their East-Asian ethnicity.

Maybe gay white people are discriminated against, particularly in Russia and the US, but sexuality is outside of ethnic reasoning.


A Heterosexual White British Male in the 20s-30s is the most discriminated against demographic in the UK.

I used to get called white shit at my primary school and I was one of 4 white people in my class as I live in an area with a large population of people from western Asia and if I said anything at all back (not even referring to race) I was instantly accused by the very same kids of being "racist" because it had already been drummed into them that if anyone says anything against them, it's because of their race, not what they are doing/how they are acting.

I've got past that, I have a wide range of friends from a large number of ethnic backgrounds and I think I live in one of the most multicultural tolerant societies in the world. It's not perfect but I have to say, when I went to the US, I was shocked at how much racial profiling goes on in airports etc.

Last year I had a very opinionated pakistani taxi driver who was complaining about all the Eastern Europeans who are migrating here at the moment and how they're invading "our country". I kind of made me chuckle as that was exactly how previous generations viewed asians coming over in the 60s. Thankfully for the most part all that is history and we have a very open society on the whole. I was one of the first generations to grow up with diverse ethnic demographics already established in the UK, so to me it's completely normal.

To answer the OP, yes of course white people should be allowed in the conversation of multi ethnicity. Without this, there will never be a real solution. I think in some countries, there needs to be much more education to stop the xenophobia and inherent racism cultures have. But hopefully, as with gay rights etc, it's something that will naturally resolve itself with future generations.

I think in 40-50 years time, our children and grandchildren will look back and wonder why the hell there was ever such a fuss over gay marriage/rights much in the same way I cannot comprehend how anywhere could ever have had seggregation based on the colour of someone's skin.



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DevilRising said:
There is no such thing as "white" people. The only people who even fit that label, are people who consider themselves to be "white", IE aren't educated to or just don't care at all about their own roots and family background.


Tell that the the UK Government and Europe. I am "White British". There is also "White Other". So you will find that I am defined as "White" in law.



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