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DKC Tropical Freeze is a mainstream game

It should have sold better 156 47.85%
 
Sales proves nothing 76 23.31%
 
Sales = Metacritic 27 8.28%
 
I wanted DK64-2 62 19.02%
 
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DJEVOLVE on 19 February 2014
Pavolink said:
morenoingrato said:
Pavolink said:

Retro PR teach us that they choose DK franchise over others ones, but sales have proved that consumers choice is to ignore the game.

If you are going to bring up a Metroid game, I can assure you, it would have sold just as badly, nevermind a new IP.

The blame for the sales failure is directed at the WiiU itself, not the game.


I didn't mention Metroid. And Metroid is a franchise that can be limited by userbase. DK was according to some a mainstream 6M seller franchise on Wii, so userbase must not be a problem.


On that subject, I would like a retro super metroid, as that is one of my all time favorite games.



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Spazzy_D on 19 February 2014
daredevil.shark said:
bubblegamer said:
What's next on the chalkboard?



How long have Sony fans been waiting to bust that out, lol.  Brings up a good point though, how long did the PS3 get dragged along until it was "saved"?  It wasn't software, from GTA to Gran Turismo, that finally made it sell decent.   It was a slim model, rebranding, and price cut.



Figgycal on 19 February 2014
Spazzy_D said:
daredevil.shark said:
bubblegamer said:
What's next on the chalkboard?



How long have Sony fans been waiting to bust that out, lol.  Brings up a good point though, how long did the PS3 get dragged along until it was "saved"?  It wasn't software, from GTA to Grn Turismo, that finally made it sell decent.   It was a slim model, rebranding, and price cut.

The PS3 never sold this badly.



areason on 19 February 2014
Soundwave said:

The only good thing now is when Bayonetta 2 and X eventually come out and bomb, at least they have the "hey even Donkey Kong, Pikmin 3, Wii Fit, W101, bombed and even Mario is having a tough time" excuse so there's no expectation on these games to have to perform on this lame duck console.

That might be the saving grace for getting a third Bayonetta or Xeno game greenlit because Nintendo can't possibly blame the developers when everything on the system is underperforming in the way that they cut ties with Silicon Knights and Factor 5 once their games sales declined. 


I have a feeling that X and bayo will do quite good, they are different types of games compared to the bombs. 



Kresnik on 19 February 2014
osed125 said:

Coming from 1st party games...only NSMBU and 3D World (3 if you want to count Super Luigi U which is a DLC)

Counting 3rd party...only 2 more: Sonic Lost Worlds and Rayman Lengends.

In any case, why have people not had enough of FPS? genres matter very little.


I think you raise quite an interesting point by bringing up FPS'.  Namely, that we have seen the genre begin to be saturated and while the big guns (CoD/Battlefield/Halo) keep chugging along, you get stuff on the outside like Medal of Honor/007 Legends/Homefront/Rage/Resistance etc. etc. which can't keep up.  Some of those were quality issues; but some of those were absolutely fine games which just didn't sell.

Undoubtedly, the market is bigger for FPS' than platformers but maybe DK is now being pushed more to the outside while people prioritize ever-present Mario and - apparently - Kirby.  Though, the strong sales of the 3DS remake would suggest otherwise.

So that leads me to the conclusion that it's just first week jitters alongside toxic console.  



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NintendoPie on 19 February 2014

The problem with the low sales of this is the thing it's on. It's not that platformers are over saturated, it's not that Retro made the wrong decision, it's not that DK is unpopular in Japan.

The Wii U, a badly selling console with really bad and little marketing/advertising, is the problem. It doesn't help that Japan has also been more keen on buying Handhelds compared to Home Consoles in the past few years.

And I don't know about you guys, but I didn't expect this to help the situation all that much. It would've been more helpful had their been more games released along side it, but there aren't. How well did they even market this?



Alikan on 19 February 2014
AgentZorn said:
This game could have sold way more if Nintendo tried to push the game. So far the only game I have seen them give a damn about was 3D World, and even that advertising push was rather soft. I think the Wii U is beyond saving now. Nintendo attitude towards the console is whats hurting it the most and I believe they will drop software support for the console in 2017, or even earlier than that. Nintendo seems to think that all they need to do is release something, tell no one about it and it will sell millions.


While i generally think advertising has gone haywire in scope and cost in the industry last few years Nintendo feels too far on the other end of the spectrum.

Unfourtanetly in todays climate and advertisment/hype static one needs to break through that static. Otherwise not many except the most initiated will notice you.



Areal-Llort on 19 February 2014

I see more people buying the Wii U lately. This past week I had a few friends on FaceBook, DeviantArt, and real life purchased a Wii U and more people are planning to.



DélioPT on 19 February 2014
Pavolink said:
DélioPT said:
Either japanese gamers don`t want a sequel that feeks like the original game or PS4 coming soon might have add something to do with it.

I think it has to do more with the first than the second part.

DKC Returns sold well on Wii, but didn't move consoles Or not as many as some expect for a 6m seller franchise.

I guess it was smoke and mirrors.

Could be that.

It`s hard to know if DKCR moved Wii consoles because it was released during the holidays. But the 3DS version made 3DS increase 21% when it came out in Japan.



Mr Khan on 19 February 2014
pokoko said:
The problem with Donkey Kong is that it's a platformer on a system that already has a number of high-profile platformers. The people who would buy Donkey Kong probably already bought the system for Mario. It's the wrong genre for a hardware bump. Even Bayonetta 2 will probably bring more new customers to the table.

Mario Kart and Smash Bros. are the only real hope remaining in terms of major system sellers this year.

For Japan, at least, Hyrule Warriors will probably do decently in that regard.



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