DialgaMarine said:
freebs2 said:
Diadoesn'tne said:
NintendoPie said:
DialgaMarine said:
I mainly skipped over the 3DS example because 1) it's a portable, and 2) it's actually doing pretty damn good. It did have a strong launch, but then it steadily started to die down, before starting to do amazing again, and continues to do so to this day. It's actually comparing well with DS numbers. The reason for it's original downfall were two obvious reasons: Lack of games and overpriced. Once Nintendo fixed both of those, it went up. The difference between the PS4 and the 3DS is that it has neither of those problems right out of the gate (yes the PS4 has plenty of games, and many more coming; don't BS me).
Overall, you have a point that cummalitively, this gen won't do anywhere near as good, but that's if you include portables and factor in the clearly weak numbers of Vita and Wii-U. PS4, however, will do great.
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Of course you would factor in the Wii U numbers. It is a home console. No?
I'm not saying the PS4 won't do great. Predicting that it'll do 153+ Million is absolutely mad, though.
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Once again, I ask, how is 153M + for PS4 LT so naive? Do you have any actually reasoning behind this?
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Ok, I think we could both agree there are people not interested in video games and people who are just barely interested and not willing to buy consoles anyway, right? So the question is: What does the ps4 offer to these people that ps3 or 360 weren't offering already? If you could awnser to this question you may explain how the Ps4 is supposed to sell 153M units.
Right now Ps3 has sold 80m in 7 years and X360 80m in 8 years (let's leave Nintendo out of the equation), this means the whole console gaming population is 160m by now, actually it's less beacuse you know some people bought both Ps3 and 360 and those people are counted 2 times. So by saying the Ps4 will sell 153m you could imply 2 different things: or the Xbox One will sell abysmally (like the WiiU or worse), or the market as a whole, so the gaming population, will grow by a good margin. How is that supposed to happen? If Ps4 can't offer something very appealing to people who haven't bought Ps3 or 360 before it simply can't happen.
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You might as well ask what any new gen console offers over the previous gen? Why do people buy new consoles, period? Easy. More powerful hardware, more new games on said hardware, more new features, and so on. If people didn't see the potential of the PS4 over the previous gen, it wouldn't be continually flying off shelves like it has been.
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I can't tell if you genuinely didn't get what I was saying or you just don't want to understand.
This is not about what a new gen offers over the previous to people who play games, it's abou what new gen offers to people who haven't bought consoles in the previous gen.
A person that hasn't played games in the previous gen doesn't care if the hardware is new.
To get "new" players jump in you need something easy to understand and possibly innovative (like Crasg Bandicoot or Gran Turismo were at the time), a bunch of sequels and a couple of new hardcore IPs are not enough.
Ps4 dosen't offer new features compared to the ps3, on the contrary it has less features (no DLNA, no CD).
The fact that Ps4 Is selling at a good rate right now doesn't mean the market is growing. People who are buying Ps4s right now are former ps3 or 360 owners, they aren't new gamers.
As I've explained you before the market of former Ps3 and 360 owners is not big enough for ps4 to reach 153m. To reach that goal the ps4 must draw people from outside that market and atm no one is doing anything substantial for it to happen.
