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I'm waiting for Mario Party U with online opponents. I would buy a Wii U if Nintendo brings it out.

I remember being 16 and having sleep overs with my friends playing Mario Party all night long.



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Nem said:
Landguy said:
Nem said:

Erm... lets see... you bought a shovelware game and you complain its shovelware. This same game you bought is old and has to go through an update like other consoles do. The situation described is something i went through on several PS3 games.

I mean seriously... try getting God of War ascencion on PS3. Nothing of what you described is never before seen.

Buy a proper game before you go on to judge. Its clear to me your opinion was made before you bought it. Get yourself some better games.

 

What you are doing is comparable to someone buying an Xbox 360 with kinect adventures and concluding the system is terrible based on that. Or Buying a PS3 with the move and some crappy move game and saying the console is crap.

The console isnt crap, the game is. Try to learn the difference. The system update you made is hardly something worth mentioning has you wont have to do it ever again.

So, Unless someone buys a console and tells you how much fun and how great the games are, they are at fault?  I described a pretty typical experience for someone buying a games console for someone other than themselves.  You seem(like many others in this thread) to have taken it personal that the experience that I have had so far is not the same as yours.  Did I expect there was going to be an update?  Yes, I stated that in the OP.  I was surprised at how long the download took and how it seemed to take an extremely long time to install once downloaded.  Your assumption that every game that someone buys is bought because of a metacritic score, is just a joke.  My kids wanted the game, so I let them get it.  Tough to leave the store with a new system and not pick up a game that they wanted.  I knew it was probably going to be shovelware.  Does that change the fact that it dissapointed me?  No  

I am not sure where in any of my posts that I stated that the WiiU is garbage or crap.  What I stated was that if the average consumer has a similar experience to mine, they will not likely recommend the console and not support it with multiple game purchases.  I have only had it for 4 days, so the odds are pretty good that I will continue to purchase many games over the next few years.  Based on the experience so far, I will probably try to rent or borrow games to try them out before buying though.  Funny thing is, my kids think that the Olypics game is great and that the Mario Brothers game is kind of boring.


Ok, simply putting it, you bought a disppointing game and you said the Wii U itself is disappointing. Does that sound like a sensible thing to say to you? Is that how you judge a system?

If you bought the game your kids wanted, why dont you ask them if they are happy with it? Since this game clearly wasnt for you, but it didnt stop you from making a rushed impression of the system and posting it online, when you are perfectly aware of the ammount of unwarranted hate this system gets.

So, tell me. How do you expect people to answer to that? "Oh yes, that was an informed judgement, i totally agree?". Not gonna happen is it?


/thread



kidvizious said:
Landguy said:
kidvizious said:
Landguy said:
Nem said:
Landguy said:
Nem said:

Erm... lets see... you bought a shovelware game and you complain its shovelware. This same game you bought is old and has to go through an update like other consoles do. The situation described is something i went through on several PS3 games.

I mean seriously... try getting God of War ascencion on PS3. Nothing of what you described is never before seen.

Buy a proper game before you go on to judge. Its clear to me your opinion was made before you bought it. Get yourself some better games.

 

What you are doing is comparable to someone buying an Xbox 360 with kinect adventures and concluding the system is terrible based on that. Or Buying a PS3 with the move and some crappy move game and saying the console is crap.

The console isnt crap, the game is. Try to learn the difference. The system update you made is hardly something worth mentioning has you wont have to do it ever again.

So, Unless someone buys a console and tells you how much fun and how great the games are, they are at fault?  I described a pretty typical experience for someone buying a games console for someone other than themselves.  You seem(like many others in this thread) to have taken it personal that the experience that I have had so far is not the same as yours.  Did I expect there was going to be an update?  Yes, I stated that in the OP.  I was surprised at how long the download took and how it seemed to take an extremely long time to install once downloaded.  Your assumption that every game that someone buys is bought because of a metacritic score, is just a joke.  My kids wanted the game, so I let them get it.  Tough to leave the store with a new system and not pick up a game that they wanted.  I knew it was probably going to be shovelware.  Does that change the fact that it dissapointed me?  No  

I am not sure where in any of my posts that I stated that the WiiU is garbage or crap.  What I stated was that if the average consumer has a similar experience to mine, they will not likely recommend the console and not support it with multiple game purchases.  I have only had it for 4 days, so the odds are pretty good that I will continue to purchase many games over the next few years.  Based on the experience so far, I will probably try to rent or borrow games to try them out before buying though.  Funny thing is, my kids think that the Olypics game is great and that the Mario Brothers game is kind of boring.


Ok, simply putting it, you bought a disppointing game and you said the Wii U itself is disappointing. Does that sound like a sensible thing to say to you? Is that how you judge a system?

If you bought the game your kids wanted, why dont you ask them if they are happy with it? Since this game clearly wasnt for you, but it didnt stop you from making a rushed impression of the system and posting it online, when you are perfectly aware of the ammount of unwarranted hate this system gets.

So, tell me. How do you expect people to answer to that? "Oh yes, that was an informed judgement, i totally agree?". Not gonna happen is it?

What is it that you are defending, The Mario Olympics game or your personal honor? 

You seem dissapointed that someone judged a product after purchasing it and spending 6-7 hours of time with it.  My kids have probably spent 30+ hours with it.  They like it/Love it, as it does everything the Wii did that they liked and has even more capabilities with the tablet. 

You should go work for Nintendo, as they are clearly looking for more Yes men to tell them that the product has no problems and its the best.  I am only telling it like it is from my perspective.  It is important to be forthcoming when talking about a product that you purchased, as it makes it easier to accept the shortcomings and move on.  Through this thread, I have recieved numerous suggestions for games and some to seek tech support from Nintendo.  I would say that discussing my experience so far has been helpful to me.  Too bad you seem to think that this is all about how the world "should" post when talking about Nintendo's products.


He's pointing out that you bought shovelware, expressed your dissapointment in said shovelware, then proceeded to judge the Wii U based off of said shovelware. He's defending the Wii U and your extremely poor judgement of it based off of one game that is notorious for being shovelware. What you are doing basically is called having an uninformed opinion.

So, you also believe that the Super Mario Brothers is shovelware? 

Either way, it doesn't matter what games I played on the system.  I based my opinion on the games that I have played.  If as many in this thread have stated, metacritic is a bunch of opinions based on a more than likely short period of time. 

If you want every opinion to be based soley on the perfect game or perfect this or that, then the system is a fail on that fact alone.  I will continue to play other games and maybe my opinion will change.  We will have to wait and see.


No. Super Mario Bros U was great. A solid 9/10. You know however that to judge a system by 2 games really shows your ignorance as a gamer and honestly, shows you have an uninformed opinion that no one should take seriously.

You obviously did not read the OP or the dozen or so follow up comments that I have made.  I never even said that I have made some type of final judgement of the system.  I stated my experience so far and stated my dissapointment.  You obviously lack the comprehension skills to absorb that information.  You therefore have an uninformed opinion and can not be taken seriously.  Please do not comment on any threads on this site until you take the time to read them.



It is near the end of the end....

supernihilist said:
Nem said:
Landguy said:
Nem said:

Erm... lets see... you bought a shovelware game and you complain its shovelware. This same game you bought is old and has to go through an update like other consoles do. The situation described is something i went through on several PS3 games.

I mean seriously... try getting God of War ascencion on PS3. Nothing of what you described is never before seen.

Buy a proper game before you go on to judge. Its clear to me your opinion was made before you bought it. Get yourself some better games.

 

What you are doing is comparable to someone buying an Xbox 360 with kinect adventures and concluding the system is terrible based on that. Or Buying a PS3 with the move and some crappy move game and saying the console is crap.

The console isnt crap, the game is. Try to learn the difference. The system update you made is hardly something worth mentioning has you wont have to do it ever again.

So, Unless someone buys a console and tells you how much fun and how great the games are, they are at fault?  I described a pretty typical experience for someone buying a games console for someone other than themselves.  You seem(like many others in this thread) to have taken it personal that the experience that I have had so far is not the same as yours.  Did I expect there was going to be an update?  Yes, I stated that in the OP.  I was surprised at how long the download took and how it seemed to take an extremely long time to install once downloaded.  Your assumption that every game that someone buys is bought because of a metacritic score, is just a joke.  My kids wanted the game, so I let them get it.  Tough to leave the store with a new system and not pick up a game that they wanted.  I knew it was probably going to be shovelware.  Does that change the fact that it dissapointed me?  No  

I am not sure where in any of my posts that I stated that the WiiU is garbage or crap.  What I stated was that if the average consumer has a similar experience to mine, they will not likely recommend the console and not support it with multiple game purchases.  I have only had it for 4 days, so the odds are pretty good that I will continue to purchase many games over the next few years.  Based on the experience so far, I will probably try to rent or borrow games to try them out before buying though.  Funny thing is, my kids think that the Olypics game is great and that the Mario Brothers game is kind of boring.


Ok, simply putting it, you bought a disppointing game and you said the Wii U itself is disappointing. Does that sound like a sensible thing to say to you? Is that how you judge a system?

If you bought the game your kids wanted, why dont you ask them if they are happy with it? Since this game clearly wasnt for you, but it didnt stop you from making a rushed impression of the system and posting it online, when you are perfectly aware of the ammount of unwarranted hate this system gets.

So, tell me. How do you expect people to answer to that? "Oh yes, that was an informed judgement, i totally agree?". Not gonna happen is it?


/thread

So why come back then?

You made your point earlier that it is your opinion that matters and that any other must be wrong.  You can't seem to stay away...



It is near the end of the end....

Landguy said:
supernihilist said:
Nem said:
Landguy said:
Nem said:

Erm... lets see... you bought a shovelware game and you complain its shovelware. This same game you bought is old and has to go through an update like other consoles do. The situation described is something i went through on several PS3 games.

I mean seriously... try getting God of War ascencion on PS3. Nothing of what you described is never before seen.

Buy a proper game before you go on to judge. Its clear to me your opinion was made before you bought it. Get yourself some better games.

 

What you are doing is comparable to someone buying an Xbox 360 with kinect adventures and concluding the system is terrible based on that. Or Buying a PS3 with the move and some crappy move game and saying the console is crap.

The console isnt crap, the game is. Try to learn the difference. The system update you made is hardly something worth mentioning has you wont have to do it ever again.

So, Unless someone buys a console and tells you how much fun and how great the games are, they are at fault?  I described a pretty typical experience for someone buying a games console for someone other than themselves.  You seem(like many others in this thread) to have taken it personal that the experience that I have had so far is not the same as yours.  Did I expect there was going to be an update?  Yes, I stated that in the OP.  I was surprised at how long the download took and how it seemed to take an extremely long time to install once downloaded.  Your assumption that every game that someone buys is bought because of a metacritic score, is just a joke.  My kids wanted the game, so I let them get it.  Tough to leave the store with a new system and not pick up a game that they wanted.  I knew it was probably going to be shovelware.  Does that change the fact that it dissapointed me?  No  

I am not sure where in any of my posts that I stated that the WiiU is garbage or crap.  What I stated was that if the average consumer has a similar experience to mine, they will not likely recommend the console and not support it with multiple game purchases.  I have only had it for 4 days, so the odds are pretty good that I will continue to purchase many games over the next few years.  Based on the experience so far, I will probably try to rent or borrow games to try them out before buying though.  Funny thing is, my kids think that the Olypics game is great and that the Mario Brothers game is kind of boring.


Ok, simply putting it, you bought a disppointing game and you said the Wii U itself is disappointing. Does that sound like a sensible thing to say to you? Is that how you judge a system?

If you bought the game your kids wanted, why dont you ask them if they are happy with it? Since this game clearly wasnt for you, but it didnt stop you from making a rushed impression of the system and posting it online, when you are perfectly aware of the ammount of unwarranted hate this system gets.

So, tell me. How do you expect people to answer to that? "Oh yes, that was an informed judgement, i totally agree?". Not gonna happen is it?


/thread

So why come back then?

You made your point earlier that it is your opinion that matters and that any other must be wrong.  You can't seem to stay away...

No. I was simply reading other posts and this post was the one that imo ends the thread.



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Landguy said:
kidvizious said:
Landguy said:
kidvizious said:
Landguy said:
Nem said:
Landguy said:
Nem said:

Erm... lets see... you bought a shovelware game and you complain its shovelware. This same game you bought is old and has to go through an update like other consoles do. The situation described is something i went through on several PS3 games.

I mean seriously... try getting God of War ascencion on PS3. Nothing of what you described is never before seen.

Buy a proper game before you go on to judge. Its clear to me your opinion was made before you bought it. Get yourself some better games.

 

What you are doing is comparable to someone buying an Xbox 360 with kinect adventures and concluding the system is terrible based on that. Or Buying a PS3 with the move and some crappy move game and saying the console is crap.

The console isnt crap, the game is. Try to learn the difference. The system update you made is hardly something worth mentioning has you wont have to do it ever again.

So, Unless someone buys a console and tells you how much fun and how great the games are, they are at fault?  I described a pretty typical experience for someone buying a games console for someone other than themselves.  You seem(like many others in this thread) to have taken it personal that the experience that I have had so far is not the same as yours.  Did I expect there was going to be an update?  Yes, I stated that in the OP.  I was surprised at how long the download took and how it seemed to take an extremely long time to install once downloaded.  Your assumption that every game that someone buys is bought because of a metacritic score, is just a joke.  My kids wanted the game, so I let them get it.  Tough to leave the store with a new system and not pick up a game that they wanted.  I knew it was probably going to be shovelware.  Does that change the fact that it dissapointed me?  No  

I am not sure where in any of my posts that I stated that the WiiU is garbage or crap.  What I stated was that if the average consumer has a similar experience to mine, they will not likely recommend the console and not support it with multiple game purchases.  I have only had it for 4 days, so the odds are pretty good that I will continue to purchase many games over the next few years.  Based on the experience so far, I will probably try to rent or borrow games to try them out before buying though.  Funny thing is, my kids think that the Olypics game is great and that the Mario Brothers game is kind of boring.


Ok, simply putting it, you bought a disppointing game and you said the Wii U itself is disappointing. Does that sound like a sensible thing to say to you? Is that how you judge a system?

If you bought the game your kids wanted, why dont you ask them if they are happy with it? Since this game clearly wasnt for you, but it didnt stop you from making a rushed impression of the system and posting it online, when you are perfectly aware of the ammount of unwarranted hate this system gets.

So, tell me. How do you expect people to answer to that? "Oh yes, that was an informed judgement, i totally agree?". Not gonna happen is it?

What is it that you are defending, The Mario Olympics game or your personal honor? 

You seem dissapointed that someone judged a product after purchasing it and spending 6-7 hours of time with it.  My kids have probably spent 30+ hours with it.  They like it/Love it, as it does everything the Wii did that they liked and has even more capabilities with the tablet. 

You should go work for Nintendo, as they are clearly looking for more Yes men to tell them that the product has no problems and its the best.  I am only telling it like it is from my perspective.  It is important to be forthcoming when talking about a product that you purchased, as it makes it easier to accept the shortcomings and move on.  Through this thread, I have recieved numerous suggestions for games and some to seek tech support from Nintendo.  I would say that discussing my experience so far has been helpful to me.  Too bad you seem to think that this is all about how the world "should" post when talking about Nintendo's products.


He's pointing out that you bought shovelware, expressed your dissapointment in said shovelware, then proceeded to judge the Wii U based off of said shovelware. He's defending the Wii U and your extremely poor judgement of it based off of one game that is notorious for being shovelware. What you are doing basically is called having an uninformed opinion.

So, you also believe that the Super Mario Brothers is shovelware? 

Either way, it doesn't matter what games I played on the system.  I based my opinion on the games that I have played.  If as many in this thread have stated, metacritic is a bunch of opinions based on a more than likely short period of time. 

If you want every opinion to be based soley on the perfect game or perfect this or that, then the system is a fail on that fact alone.  I will continue to play other games and maybe my opinion will change.  We will have to wait and see.


No. Super Mario Bros U was great. A solid 9/10. You know however that to judge a system by 2 games really shows your ignorance as a gamer and honestly, shows you have an uninformed opinion that no one should take seriously.

You obviously did not read the OP or the dozen or so follow up comments that I have made.  I never even said that I have made some type of final judgement of the system.  I stated my experience so far and stated my dissapointment.  You obviously lack the comprehension skills to absorb that information.  You therefore have an uninformed opinion and can not be taken seriously.  Please do not comment on any threads on this site until you take the time to read them.


I read buddy. You stated you had a dissapointed impression/judgement of the system based off 2 games. 2 games. 2 games. One is shovelware and the other is great however not the highlight of the system's library. To deem a system dissapointing whether a final opinion or an initial impression after 2 games shows your true ignorance and inability to remain open minded. I'm sure if I went and got a PS4 and got Knack with Battlefield 4, I use Battlefield 4 since it a sequel of an established franchise, I would also feel dissapointed. Not by the system, but by the games. However, I would not be posting about my dissapointment and woe is me based off of 2 games, one of which was received poorly. I would continue to try out the highlights of the system and then determine whether the system was worth the purchase. You frankly have done the latter which is essentially what a casual does. You scratch the surface and complain.



Landguy said:
supernihilist said:
Nem said:
Landguy said:
Nem said:

Erm... lets see... you bought a shovelware game and you complain its shovelware. This same game you bought is old and has to go through an update like other consoles do. The situation described is something i went through on several PS3 games.

I mean seriously... try getting God of War ascencion on PS3. Nothing of what you described is never before seen.

Buy a proper game before you go on to judge. Its clear to me your opinion was made before you bought it. Get yourself some better games.

 

What you are doing is comparable to someone buying an Xbox 360 with kinect adventures and concluding the system is terrible based on that. Or Buying a PS3 with the move and some crappy move game and saying the console is crap.

The console isnt crap, the game is. Try to learn the difference. The system update you made is hardly something worth mentioning has you wont have to do it ever again.

So, Unless someone buys a console and tells you how much fun and how great the games are, they are at fault?  I described a pretty typical experience for someone buying a games console for someone other than themselves.  You seem(like many others in this thread) to have taken it personal that the experience that I have had so far is not the same as yours.  Did I expect there was going to be an update?  Yes, I stated that in the OP.  I was surprised at how long the download took and how it seemed to take an extremely long time to install once downloaded.  Your assumption that every game that someone buys is bought because of a metacritic score, is just a joke.  My kids wanted the game, so I let them get it.  Tough to leave the store with a new system and not pick up a game that they wanted.  I knew it was probably going to be shovelware.  Does that change the fact that it dissapointed me?  No  

I am not sure where in any of my posts that I stated that the WiiU is garbage or crap.  What I stated was that if the average consumer has a similar experience to mine, they will not likely recommend the console and not support it with multiple game purchases.  I have only had it for 4 days, so the odds are pretty good that I will continue to purchase many games over the next few years.  Based on the experience so far, I will probably try to rent or borrow games to try them out before buying though.  Funny thing is, my kids think that the Olypics game is great and that the Mario Brothers game is kind of boring.


Ok, simply putting it, you bought a disppointing game and you said the Wii U itself is disappointing. Does that sound like a sensible thing to say to you? Is that how you judge a system?

If you bought the game your kids wanted, why dont you ask them if they are happy with it? Since this game clearly wasnt for you, but it didnt stop you from making a rushed impression of the system and posting it online, when you are perfectly aware of the ammount of unwarranted hate this system gets.

So, tell me. How do you expect people to answer to that? "Oh yes, that was an informed judgement, i totally agree?". Not gonna happen is it?


/thread

So why come back then?

You made your point earlier that it is your opinion that matters and that any other must be wrong.  You can't seem to stay away...

 

OP, when the majority agrees you are wrong for judging a system based off of 2 games and whining about it on here, what does that tell you?



jigokutamago said:
Perhaps it may be a bit too early to judge a console by two games.


 Philosophically you're correct, but Nintendo has a strong track record of having issues with games over the past twenty years outside of first party.



Landguy, instead of stubburnly sticking to your rushed impression of the system, why dont you just reserve judgement for when you get some games that are more likely to appeal to you?
I just dont see how you can pin this on the system itself, like you clearly do on the OP post. I have no doubt that that was a bias implanted in your head from the internet.



kidvizious said:
Landguy said:
kidvizious said:
Landguy said:
kidvizious said:
Landguy said:
Nem said:
Landguy said:
Nem said:

Erm... lets see... you bought a shovelware game and you complain its shovelware. This same game you bought is old and has to go through an update like other consoles do. The situation described is something i went through on several PS3 games.

I mean seriously... try getting God of War ascencion on PS3. Nothing of what you described is never before seen.

Buy a proper game before you go on to judge. Its clear to me your opinion was made before you bought it. Get yourself some better games.

 

What you are doing is comparable to someone buying an Xbox 360 with kinect adventures and concluding the system is terrible based on that. Or Buying a PS3 with the move and some crappy move game and saying the console is crap.

The console isnt crap, the game is. Try to learn the difference. The system update you made is hardly something worth mentioning has you wont have to do it ever again.

So, Unless someone buys a console and tells you how much fun and how great the games are, they are at fault?  I described a pretty typical experience for someone buying a games console for someone other than themselves.  You seem(like many others in this thread) to have taken it personal that the experience that I have had so far is not the same as yours.  Did I expect there was going to be an update?  Yes, I stated that in the OP.  I was surprised at how long the download took and how it seemed to take an extremely long time to install once downloaded.  Your assumption that every game that someone buys is bought because of a metacritic score, is just a joke.  My kids wanted the game, so I let them get it.  Tough to leave the store with a new system and not pick up a game that they wanted.  I knew it was probably going to be shovelware.  Does that change the fact that it dissapointed me?  No  

I am not sure where in any of my posts that I stated that the WiiU is garbage or crap.  What I stated was that if the average consumer has a similar experience to mine, they will not likely recommend the console and not support it with multiple game purchases.  I have only had it for 4 days, so the odds are pretty good that I will continue to purchase many games over the next few years.  Based on the experience so far, I will probably try to rent or borrow games to try them out before buying though.  Funny thing is, my kids think that the Olypics game is great and that the Mario Brothers game is kind of boring.


Ok, simply putting it, you bought a disppointing game and you said the Wii U itself is disappointing. Does that sound like a sensible thing to say to you? Is that how you judge a system?

If you bought the game your kids wanted, why dont you ask them if they are happy with it? Since this game clearly wasnt for you, but it didnt stop you from making a rushed impression of the system and posting it online, when you are perfectly aware of the ammount of unwarranted hate this system gets.

So, tell me. How do you expect people to answer to that? "Oh yes, that was an informed judgement, i totally agree?". Not gonna happen is it?

What is it that you are defending, The Mario Olympics game or your personal honor? 

You seem dissapointed that someone judged a product after purchasing it and spending 6-7 hours of time with it.  My kids have probably spent 30+ hours with it.  They like it/Love it, as it does everything the Wii did that they liked and has even more capabilities with the tablet. 

You should go work for Nintendo, as they are clearly looking for more Yes men to tell them that the product has no problems and its the best.  I am only telling it like it is from my perspective.  It is important to be forthcoming when talking about a product that you purchased, as it makes it easier to accept the shortcomings and move on.  Through this thread, I have recieved numerous suggestions for games and some to seek tech support from Nintendo.  I would say that discussing my experience so far has been helpful to me.  Too bad you seem to think that this is all about how the world "should" post when talking about Nintendo's products.


He's pointing out that you bought shovelware, expressed your dissapointment in said shovelware, then proceeded to judge the Wii U based off of said shovelware. He's defending the Wii U and your extremely poor judgement of it based off of one game that is notorious for being shovelware. What you are doing basically is called having an uninformed opinion.

So, you also believe that the Super Mario Brothers is shovelware? 

Either way, it doesn't matter what games I played on the system.  I based my opinion on the games that I have played.  If as many in this thread have stated, metacritic is a bunch of opinions based on a more than likely short period of time. 

If you want every opinion to be based soley on the perfect game or perfect this or that, then the system is a fail on that fact alone.  I will continue to play other games and maybe my opinion will change.  We will have to wait and see.


No. Super Mario Bros U was great. A solid 9/10. You know however that to judge a system by 2 games really shows your ignorance as a gamer and honestly, shows you have an uninformed opinion that no one should take seriously.

You obviously did not read the OP or the dozen or so follow up comments that I have made.  I never even said that I have made some type of final judgement of the system.  I stated my experience so far and stated my dissapointment.  You obviously lack the comprehension skills to absorb that information.  You therefore have an uninformed opinion and can not be taken seriously.  Please do not comment on any threads on this site until you take the time to read them.


I read buddy. You stated you had a dissapointed impression/judgement of the system based off 2 games. 2 games. 2 games. One is shovelware and the other is great however not the highlight of the system's library. To deem a system dissapointing whether a final opinion or an initial impression after 2 games shows your true ignorance and inability to remain open minded. I'm sure if I went and got a PS4 and got Knack with Battlefield 4, I use Battlefield 4 since it a sequel of an established franchise, I would also feel dissapointed. Not by the system, but by the games. However, I would not be posting about my dissapointment and woe is me based off of 2 games, one of which was received poorly. I would continue to try out the highlights of the system and then determine whether the system was worth the purchase. You frankly have done the latter which is essentially what a casual does. You scratch the surface and complain.

EXACTLY!!!

I have stated it over and over in this thread(thus the "read the posts" comment) that I am a casual gamer when it comes to Nintendo.  My point, if you had really read the OP was that if I was having this impression, there would be lots of other people having the same impression.  Luckily for me, I actually do take the time to get feedback from people here that have obviously put more time into the Nintendo arena than I have in recent years.  But, there are probably a lot more people who make their decision based on the same amount of time that I did and just move on.  Try to take the information as it is not what you want it to be.



It is near the end of the end....