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cura on 31 January 2014
shikamaru317 said:
Raven722 said:
shikamaru317 said:
jlmurph2 said:
Did anyone really expect 2014?

I never did, seemed like wishful thinking, Holiday 2014 is only a year and a half from the release of The Last Of Us, even if they had a team working on Uncharted 4 before The Last of Us was finished, and the full TLOU dev team switched over to Uncharted 4 after TLOU's release (which obviously couldn't have happened because they did multiplayer and a singleplayer DLC which still isn't finished), a Hliday 2014 release would be very difficult to make.


Again, Naughty Dog runs two full teams. They were working on The Last of Us and Uncharted 3 at the same time.


Even so, with their rumored employee count, a 50/50 split would make the Uncharted 4 team small enough that a 2014 release would still be difficult to make. 

How do you know that? I'll admit I don't know much about game development but ND has 251~ employees, with a 50/50 split it would mean 100~ for each team. 



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bucky1965 on 31 January 2014
cura said:

I think ND stated that they will be using the same engine they used for the last of us for future games. From memory  I saw it in an interview with one of the ND developers talking about the last of us.

I still think there is a reasonable chance that it will release in 2014:
- Uncharted 1, 2, 3 all released in the fourth quarter of their respective years
- Uncharted is a big franchise for Sony and I believe Sony will be pushing for a Nov 2014 to push console sales
- Both uncharted 2 and 3 were announced with a teaser trailer one year prior to their release.
- From my understanding, ND broke off into two teams after Uncharted 2: one team focusing on Uncharted 3 and the other focusing on the last of us.
- Delaying the game into Q1/Q2 2015 would be a bad decision IMO, and releasing it in Q4 2015 would seem excessive to me (that  would mean there has been a 2 year gap since annoucing the game and then releasing it...highly unlikely)
- I assume ND can bring members from one team to join the other team to help with development, thereby speeding up production.

The only thing I can see which would potentially delay the game into the next year would be the unfamiliarity with developing for the PS4. Given ND's past technical wizardry, I doubt that this would be the case.

One last thing, this is the fourth game in the series (by ND) and so they already have things set in stone, whereas if they werebe making a new ip, they would have to start with nothing but an idea. 

They just finished their new game engine for the PS4 just recently. They won't be using the old one on the PS4 for obvious reasons.



cura on 31 January 2014
shikamaru317 said:
cura said:
shikamaru317 said:
Raven722 said:
shikamaru317 said:
jlmurph2 said:
Did anyone really expect 2014?

I never did, seemed like wishful thinking, Holiday 2014 is only a year and a half from the release of The Last Of Us, even if they had a team working on Uncharted 4 before The Last of Us was finished, and the full TLOU dev team switched over to Uncharted 4 after TLOU's release (which obviously couldn't have happened because they did multiplayer and a singleplayer DLC which still isn't finished), a Hliday 2014 release would be very difficult to make.


Again, Naughty Dog runs two full teams. They were working on The Last of Us and Uncharted 3 at the same time.


Even so, with their rumored employee count, a 50/50 split would make the Uncharted 4 team small enough that a 2014 release would still be difficult to make. 

How do you know that? I'll admit I don't know much about game development but ND has 251~ employees, with a 50/50 split it would mean 100~ for each team. 

Yeah, and I've seen developers in that size range take 2.5-3 years to make games before, which is why I think it'll probably be a 2015 release, maybe Summer 2015.


Despite uncharted 2 releasing 2 years from uncharted 1 and uncharted 3 releasing 2 years from uncharted 2 . ND's history suggests otherwise. 



cura on 31 January 2014
bucky1965 said:
cura said:

I think ND stated that they will be using the same engine they used for the last of us for future games. From memory  I saw it in an interview with one of the ND developers talking about the last of us.

I still think there is a reasonable chance that it will release in 2014:
- Uncharted 1, 2, 3 all released in the fourth quarter of their respective years
- Uncharted is a big franchise for Sony and I believe Sony will be pushing for a Nov 2014 to push console sales
- Both uncharted 2 and 3 were announced with a teaser trailer one year prior to their release.
- From my understanding, ND broke off into two teams after Uncharted 2: one team focusing on Uncharted 3 and the other focusing on the last of us.
- Delaying the game into Q1/Q2 2015 would be a bad decision IMO, and releasing it in Q4 2015 would seem excessive to me (that  would mean there has been a 2 year gap since annoucing the game and then releasing it...highly unlikely)
- I assume ND can bring members from one team to join the other team to help with development, thereby speeding up production.

The only thing I can see which would potentially delay the game into the next year would be the unfamiliarity with developing for the PS4. Given ND's past technical wizardry, I doubt that this would be the case.

One last thing, this is the fourth game in the series (by ND) and so they already have things set in stone, whereas if they werebe making a new ip, they would have to start with nothing but an idea. 

They just finished their new game engine for the PS4 just recently. They won't be using the old one on the PS4 for obvious reasons.

Nope...


http://www.digitalspy.com.au/gaming/news/a485922/naughty-dog-will-use-existing-uncharted-the-last-of-us-engine-for-ps4.html



Solid-Stark on 31 January 2014

Bummer. I suppose 2015 just got good then.



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Blood_Tears on 31 January 2014

Makes sense for 2015 anyways since X1 doesn't have any system sellers for this holiday besides a game that came out in 2004..



mibuokami on 31 January 2014
Raven722 said:

If The Order launched in August or so and Uncharted launched in November that's not going to cause a sales issue. The bulk of The Orders sales would have likely already happened by the time Uncharted launched and at a far enough space apart where people could easily afford both. Even with that, I still don't think that their moderate similarities would be cause for concern considering that one seems far more angled at intense shooting action while the other is much more platform-based with some puzzle solving and much less focus on gunplay. If I were making the call I would pull the trigger and have them both release within a few months of each other. Gears of War and Tomb Raider don't play anything like each other and most people will see that right off the bat. They're not going to go, "Nope. The camera is third person just like that other game plus it has heavy cinematic elements too. They play a lot differently but it's the same thing".

Regardless of our opinions , 3rd person shooter element are a BIG part of Uncharted and looks to be a big part of The Order. They will LOOK the same to the uninformed, and games will still need those type of customers to be successful.

So I would just like to point out that once again; no publisher releases two games with such blatant similiarities within 3 months of each other unless they have no faith in one of them. 




bucky1965 on 31 January 2014
cura said:
bucky1965 said:
cura said:

I think ND stated that they will be using the same engine they used for the last of us for future games. From memory  I saw it in an interview with one of the ND developers talking about the last of us.

I still think there is a reasonable chance that it will release in 2014:
- Uncharted 1, 2, 3 all released in the fourth quarter of their respective years
- Uncharted is a big franchise for Sony and I believe Sony will be pushing for a Nov 2014 to push console sales
- Both uncharted 2 and 3 were announced with a teaser trailer one year prior to their release.
- From my understanding, ND broke off into two teams after Uncharted 2: one team focusing on Uncharted 3 and the other focusing on the last of us.
- Delaying the game into Q1/Q2 2015 would be a bad decision IMO, and releasing it in Q4 2015 would seem excessive to me (that  would mean there has been a 2 year gap since annoucing the game and then releasing it...highly unlikely)
- I assume ND can bring members from one team to join the other team to help with development, thereby speeding up production.

The only thing I can see which would potentially delay the game into the next year would be the unfamiliarity with developing for the PS4. Given ND's past technical wizardry, I doubt that this would be the case.

One last thing, this is the fourth game in the series (by ND) and so they already have things set in stone, whereas if they werebe making a new ip, they would have to start with nothing but an idea. 

They just finished their new game engine for the PS4 just recently. They won't be using the old one on the PS4 for obvious reasons.

Nope...


http://www.digitalspy.com.au/gaming/news/a485922/naughty-dog-will-use-existing-uncharted-the-last-of-us-engine-for-ps4.html


PS3 and PS4 aren't compatible. Hence no backwards compatibility. Whether they rewrote old one I can't remember. Can't remember where or when I read the article, it was after the Last Of Us was released. It was mainly about the differences of the 2 systems and the game engine. Whether its a new one old one modified, don't remember.



jlmurph2 on 31 January 2014
Blood_Tears said:
Makes sense for 2015 anyways since X1 doesn't have any system sellers for this holiday besides a game that came out in 2004..


If you're going from the rumors then X1 has Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break for holiday. Not system sellers but are looking to be decent releases.



Blood_Tears on 31 January 2014
jlmurph2 said:
Blood_Tears said:
Makes sense for 2015 anyways since X1 doesn't have any system sellers for this holiday besides a game that came out in 2004..


If you're going from the rumors then X1 has Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break for holiday. Not system sellers but are looking to be decent releases.


Yeah exactly, that's all I meant by system sellers. The titanfall trigger is being pulled for March and that's it for major console movers unless we get more info at E3.  Also, those games above might be decent releases critically but commercially I'm not sure on that one. Insominiac is in a rough spot these days and can't seem to hit good quality in the last few years and this being a new studio for Xbox fans I'm not sure if there going to buy it. It's only talked about in forums mainly because it's an exclusive for list wars. QB could go either way, some were not impressed from the VGX video that was shown either. Alan Wake was a top notch and great game, heavily hyped as well and no one bought that game until it was bundled a few years later during the holidays.

But back on track, Sony doesn't need an Uncharted right now. There is plenty of 3rd party support along with The Order, Deep Down, Drive Club is rumored to be what Q3 or 4 now?  With all these leaks recently, Sony would be wise to watch what comes from MS at E3 and counter accordingly.