It's meaningless to say that as you may be biased.

Drive Club doesn't look very good and it's only 30 FPS.

Infamous SS has quite poor graphics as well

There, I said it so it must be true.

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Ehh, in systems as complex as these me or you cant actually know, and there are millions of small variables that can overcme the large surface specs we know. Only somebody intimately involved in programming on both really knows. There are still areas where XOne can beat PS4 (more peak bandwidth for example). Hell there were a few things PS2 could even do better than Xbox (and PS2 was way more weak than Xbox, much mor difference than X1 is to PS4, PS2 only had half the RAM of Xbox)

Overall so far it seems surface specs are holding true and PS4 is more powerful tho.

Anyways, PS3 was inferior to 360 all last gen in multiplats, and PS2 way below Xbox before that, so big deal really. It's about time Sony finally got a turn I guess. People are just making a way bigger deal out of it now since Sony has the edge this time. We didn't have 500 page threads every time a PS3 multiplat was markedly inferior last gen. We swept it under the rug.

LMAO, saying outlandish untrue garbage gets you nowhere.

Digital foundry analysis of forza is easy to read.

I don't think that is true. The chip might even be a little more expensive because of the eSRAM. The kinect is already more than compensated for in the additional $100.

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/171697-xbox-one-costs-more-to-make-than-the-ps4-thanks-to-esram-and-kinect

Not the ps3- 360 garbage. 360 had a better gpu, better memorty ps3 had cell, they were close. The gap is way bigger, ps4 gpu is way better, better memory, easier to code for.  same architecture with ps4 having every advantage.  This has been saiud numerous times yopu keep ignoring it, the fact people are still in denial about the power gap is hilarious.

x1 has no cell or power to catch up like ps3 did.

For someone who says we don't need these discussion you create enough threads and post an awfull lot about it. Do you work on MS pr team lol.

I dont need an analysis, my own eyes tell me.

What does that even mean BTW? DF says Forza 5 looks great.

Forza 5>>>>>>Drive Club graphics.

It's pathetic how Sonyfanboys are suddenly gloating about 1080p 60fps. Not long ago they were whining to PC users about how 1080p is useless from a certain distance and how there is no difference between 30 and 60fps. What happened?

So in 5 years when MS finally manages to release most games in 1080p and 60fps like the PS4 does what will the fanboys argue about?
Texture resolution, frame drops, AA?

LOL. You really are in fantasy land. DF says it looks great comapred to last gen..the game is underwhelimng for next gne with weak lighting, no weather, day/night low res textures, lack od distance detail. See the drive club videos looks miles better.