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No more replies? This is clearly labeled as a FAN THREAD. I thought you actually supported blu-ray itself, not just supported the other side losing.



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I am really curious to see what Universal's first Blu-Rays will be. Out of all of them, I am probably looking most forward to the Bourne movies and to King Kong. Fuck Paramount though, they never released much HD stuff to begin with and they were left holding the bag on HD-DVD simply because they wanted a payout. They are undoubtedly the most worthless of all the studios releasing on hi-def, except Weinstein who has more or less disappeared.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

akuma587 said:
I am really curious to see what Universal's first Blu-Rays will be. Out of all of them, I am probably looking most forward to the Bourne movies and to King Kong. Fuck Paramount though, they never released much HD stuff to begin with and they were left holding the bag on HD-DVD simply because they wanted a payout. They are undoubtedly the most worthless of all the studios releasing on hi-def, except Weinstein who has more or less disappeared.

I'm sorry, but can we drop the double standards. Paramount committed the sin of going to HD-DVD for money? A business was wrong for doing that? Please.

If anything Warner did the worst. Not that they switched. That was their right. It was that they did it right before CES. Nintendo did a similar thing to Sony, and we know that was not the right thing to do.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Nah, Paramount's decision was worse. They screwed a lot of people when they dropped Blu-Ray so suddenly. It wasn't too fun getting an e-mail from Amazon saying your pre-order for Transformers had been canceled by the manufacturer. At least Warner is supporting HD DVD until May.

Also, the Warner move ended the war. The Paramount move only prolonged things. In the end, the Warner move was better for a unified format.



makingmusic476 said:
Nah, Paramount's decision was worse. They screwed a lot of people when they dropped Blu-Ray so suddenly. It wasn't too fun getting an e-mail from Amazon saying your pre-order for Transformers had been canceled by the manufacturer. At least Warner is supporting HD DVD until May.

Also, the Warner move ended the war. The Paramount move only prolonged things. In the end, the Warner move was better for a unified format.

1. Paramount doesn't do pre-orders. If Amazon didn't refund the pre-order, that is their fault. Blame them, not Paramount.

2. Okay, that wasn't right. 

3. Don't give them that much credit. Are you forgetting the shoddy HD releases they put out in the year before? All the multi-disc releases that came with a bad disc, which was almost unheard of from the other studios?

Or how about cancelling the multi-format disc? It wasn't about keeping HD-DVD alive. It would have been a great , and inexpensive, way to get 80GB discs just by slapping two HD-DVD layers on top of two Blu-Ray layers. 



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Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

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LordTheNightKnight said:
akuma587 said:
I am really curious to see what Universal's first Blu-Rays will be. Out of all of them, I am probably looking most forward to the Bourne movies and to King Kong. Fuck Paramount though, they never released much HD stuff to begin with and they were left holding the bag on HD-DVD simply because they wanted a payout. They are undoubtedly the most worthless of all the studios releasing on hi-def, except Weinstein who has more or less disappeared.

I'm sorry, but can we drop the double standards. Paramount committed the sin of going to HD-DVD for money? A business was wrong for doing that? Please.

If anything Warner did the worst. Not that they switched. That was their right. It was that they did it right before CES. Nintendo did a similar thing to Sony, and we know that was not the right thing to do.


 Honestly there aren't even any Paramount Blu-Rays I want except The Italian Job and maybe Black Snake Moan.  I would want the Star Trek series, but they are charging WAY too much, and I already have the episodes on my hard drive in standard def.  And no, I don't want Transformers or Shrek because they are mindless dribble, though I would like to see some of Steven Speildberg's Dreamworks stuff, but that wasn't in the agreement to begin with.

Paramount went against their best judgement simply because they were offered a check.  Warner went with the format that had momentum and denied that they received a payoff even though they were offered one.  It is not hard to pick a format that has outsold its competitor for 52 weeks straight.  Universal at least stuck to one side through thick and thin.  Although they prolonged the format unecessarily (they were the only HD-DVD exclusive studio that mattered for A LONG time), they handled it better than Paramount did.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

akuma587 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
akuma587 said:
I am really curious to see what Universal's first Blu-Rays will be. Out of all of them, I am probably looking most forward to the Bourne movies and to King Kong. Fuck Paramount though, they never released much HD stuff to begin with and they were left holding the bag on HD-DVD simply because they wanted a payout. They are undoubtedly the most worthless of all the studios releasing on hi-def, except Weinstein who has more or less disappeared.

I'm sorry, but can we drop the double standards. Paramount committed the sin of going to HD-DVD for money? A business was wrong for doing that? Please.

If anything Warner did the worst. Not that they switched. That was their right. It was that they did it right before CES. Nintendo did a similar thing to Sony, and we know that was not the right thing to do.


Honestly there aren't even any Paramount Blu-Rays I want except The Italian Job and maybe Black Snake Moan. I would want the Star Trek series, but they are charging WAY too much, and I already have the episodes on my hard drive in standard def. And no, I don't want Transformers or Shrek because they are mindless dribble, though I would like to see some of Steven Speildberg's Dreamworks stuff, but that wasn't in the agreement to begin with.

Paramount went against their best judgement simply because they were offered a check. Warner went with the format that had momentum and denied that they received a payoff even though they were offered one. It is not hard to pick a format that has outsold its competitor for 52 weeks straight. Universal at least stuck to one side through thick and thin. Although they prolonged the format unecessarily (they were the only HD-DVD exclusive studio that mattered for A LONG time), they handled it better than Paramount did.


Most of your post is valid, except for that part. Just because HD-DVD lost, months after that deal, does not mean it was against their best judgement to make it at that time.

And enough with the line they did it for money. Money is why both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD started in the first place.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Oh, yes, and I remember some reports the payout was for marketing. As in Paramount didn't just take the money and run. They got it in a way that helped sell their films.

That was a mutually helpful deal. Just because it didn't work out doesn't mean it was wrong.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs