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Somini on 24 January 2014
Dark_Feanor said:
Somini said:
Dark_Feanor said:
Somini said:
Dark_Feanor said:
http://www.zoolert.com/videoconsoles/playstation-4/trackers/

14h and counting.


What are you counting?

The line? The demand that never stops?

Well, 16h now.

So the demand is that great that a couple of hours of availability is now considered a record?

Yes we see that.

And where can one get standalone units?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/playstation-4-500gb-console/8240103.p?id=1218866963585&skuId=8240103&ref=199&loc=MfQy8kfx*Gk&siteID=MfQy8kfx.Gk-5159.cIrsmPYz8OnHw3vWw

Supply problem solved then?

Thanks for the confirmation. I expect not to notice supply issues from now on.



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Dark_Feanor on 24 January 2014
pezus said:
Wish Best Buy had a best sellers chart. Would no doubt be dominating like on Amazon and Amazon UK


http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=sv_vg_11

Like... Xone at 14h and PS4 at 19th??

Or when Amazon had supply last week and the One was 4 to 8 positions behind?

PS: Amazon counts preorders for its bestseller, so, preoders from lastweek are only know being shipped.



Touma on 24 January 2014
Dark_Feanor said:
pezus said:

Don't you mean lack of supply? Lol. Remember, it wasn't a demand problem but a supply problem.


It was, on the other hand, Amazon has no resupply in the last 2 days and GameStop only refurbrished for the whole week.


yes amazon on wednesday 184 PS4 sold out in 7 minutes ;)



Somini on 24 January 2014
Dark_Feanor said:
pezus said:
Wish Best Buy had a best sellers chart. Would no doubt be dominating like on Amazon and Amazon UK


http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=sv_vg_11

Like... Xone at 14h and PS4 at 19th??

Or when Amazon had supply last week and the One was 4 to 8 positions behind?

PS: Amazon counts preorders for its bestseller, so, preoders from lastweek are only know being shipped.


That's for the week where the PS4 is out of stock. Look here for which has sold more in 2013;

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar

Here for who sold more in 2014:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_cal_ye



Dark_Feanor on 24 January 2014
pezus said:

And despite that, PS4 is the second biggest seller of 2014 on Amazon Video Game charts so far, only below PSN cards.

But you will deny that the demand is huge to kingdom come so why do I bother


See my comments about preorders.



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Dark_Feanor on 24 January 2014
Somini said:


That's for the week where the PS4 is out of stock. Look here for which has sold more in 2013;

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar

Here for who sold more in 2014:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_cal_ye


Yep, and NPD showed about a statistical tie, eventhought the ratio is about the same as the first 3,5 weeks of this year.

We can only have a clear picture about demand when both are readly available in all retail chain.

What I can say for certain is that PS4 is no way near the Wii level of supply/demmand back in 2007. 

February will be a very slow month. (out side Japan)



Dark_Feanor on 24 January 2014
pezus said:
Dark_Feanor said:
pezus said:
Wish Best Buy had a best sellers chart. Would no doubt be dominating like on Amazon and Amazon UK


http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=sv_vg_11

Like... Xone at 14h and PS4 at 19th??

Or when Amazon had supply last week and the One was 4 to 8 positions behind?

PS: Amazon counts preorders for its bestseller, so, preoders from lastweek are only know being shipped.

Are you for real?? PS4 isn't in stock, lol. Look at 2014 best sellers. PS4 at #2 and One at...14


Amazon has a fantastical distribution network. They just destroy any other retail chain in america or in the world. They can manage their inventory very fast, very cheap and very efficiently.

They were the only ones in the last 3 week to have a constant supply of PS4s for USA. 

I don´t know if they count partner seles for the bestseller list. Probaly they do, and those third party resellers also had PS4 in inflated prices.

PS4 also lead Amazon bestseller list during last december... it didn´t stoped Xone taking America NPD.

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Edit, not to fload the thread.

Pezus, you are free to desagree with my assumptions. I won´t claim I have the final and undeniable data. I´m just working with logic. The site I linked has the whole record of online availability.

I also check Ebay and Amazon bestsellers, and  http://bf4stats.com/ to check the general userbase for the consoles.

The fact is that PS4 scalpers are not profiting that much in the last few weeks. The BF4status shows that the ratio of people playing on PS4 and Xone continues the same (even when it´s prime time in Europe).

Isn´t that strange that PS4 is $100 cheaper and has a smal lead in userbase in USA and still, XOne has a much higher software attached rate?

Those facts make me belive that ther are a lot of people speculating with PS4 shortages or exporting those units to South America (a little far fetched, I have to say). 



2008ProchargedGT on 24 January 2014
jlrx said:
superchunk said:
jlrx said:
I have been thinking about pulling the trigger on it for the last 3 hours, and I just can't do it, there is just nothing yet to play that I can't already enjoy on my PC or Wii U (that I would want to play). PS3 PSN content won't transfer over either, its a total shame, bah. My PC runs circles around the damn thing but whatever. Someone else can have it, just going to clear the cart hrmmmm... Not gonna buy it, not yet.

pansey

I saw your original reply!

Anyway, to you and anyone who says those of us waiting should just buy it, tell me why, give me a good solid reason.

First and foremost I have a very "powerful" PC (you can see my 3dmark and the specs), I have a truly gigantic library of games on PC, I own 2 Wii U's (one for my living room (main) and one in the family room (kids). I have a PS3 which I use with gta v when I have played, as well as some tales, and last of us, I can stream to twitch with my hauppage pvr 2, including using my Wii U and OBS for my PC, but I can't do that with my PS3 (HDCP). Saying all of that, give me some compelling reasons to actually purchase the unit now? I already bought and paid for a pre-order that I canceled. A Game like Watch Dogs for me belongs on the Wii U.

When I do get a PS4, I am getting rid of my PS3.

Again, saying all that, give me a compelling reason to get it.

If that is the case i would say hold off. The only reason i can come up with is that it is gonna stay $400 for some time and its hard to tell when your gonna get another chance to buy one. Infomus and Drive Club are just around the corner but if those dont float your boat it might just be collecting dust especiay if your gonna use your PC for multiplats. This is coming from a PS4 owner.



2008ProchargedGT on 24 January 2014
Dark_Feanor said:
Somini said:


That's for the week where the PS4 is out of stock. Look here for which has sold more in 2013;

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar

Here for who sold more in 2014:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_cal_ye


Yep, and NPD showed about a statistical tie, eventhought the ratio is about the same as the first 3,5 weeks of this year.

We can only have a clear picture about demand when both are readly available in all retail chain.

What I can say for certain is that PS4 is no way near the Wii level of supply/demmand back in 2007. 

February will be a very slow month. (out side Japan)

Agree with bolded 

I cant agree with the underlined. At this point it seems demand for both the Xbone and PS4 are higher in the states than the WII was back then. In the end you may be right but its too soon to decide that now IMO



soulfly666 on 24 January 2014

I've had one since Day 1, and still play PS3 a lot due to the limited library and sales.  Other than AC4, Resogun co-op, a little Warframe, KZSF multiplayer here and there, Need for Speed sometimes, there really isnt anything else worth playing.  I am super excited about Lrds of Shadow 2 and Ninja Gaiden Z which are PS3 games.  Once Infamous and Evil within are out, that is when you will need PS4.