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Michael-5 said:

at WiiU. It topped XBO last week and now it barely beat Vita.....


Just wait until Smash and MK then it will blow everything away.



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or provide a temporary boost like 3D World is looking to

I'll still get a WiiU, but I did wish they made something other then sequels.



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Edit - looks like last Weeks XBO numbers have been altered. WiiU still sold just over 300k, but it didn't top the XBO anymore. Nor did PS4 outsell them both combined.



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Robbie2010 said:
Michael-5 said:

at WiiU. It topped XBO last week and now it barely beat Vita.....


Just wait until Smash and MK then it will blow everything away.

That is an ignorant belief. The games would have to be more addictive than herion.



chocoloco said:
Robbie2010 said:
Michael-5 said:

at WiiU. It topped XBO last week and now it barely beat Vita.....


Just wait until Smash and MK then it will blow everything away.

That is an ignorant belief. The games would have to be more addictive than herion.

Sounds about right.



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pezus said:
Michael-5 said:

Edit - looks like last Weeks XBO numbers have been altered. WiiU still sold just over 300k, but it didn't top the XBO anymore. Nor did PS4 outsell them both combined.

That happened some time ago, actually.

Oh, well I didn't notice. I swear yesterday it sold the old numbers where WiiU sold 319k last week. Looking at the edits (for the 10 week countdown), I think Vita just outsold WiiU this year. FFX during the last week really helped.



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Michael-5 said:
chocoloco said:
Robbie2010 said:
Michael-5 said:

at WiiU. It topped XBO last week and now it barely beat Vita.....


Just wait until Smash and MK then it will blow everything away.

That is an ignorant belief. The games would have to be more addictive than herion.

Sounds about right.

So you say a week, or five of good sales will make it come close to outseling  the one and PS4 lifetime? Right.



method114 said:
Carl2291 said:
selnor1983 said:
I am really shocked at how well Xbox One is selling against PS4. Its doing INCREDIBLE numbers. IS PS4 selling good?

PS4 is available in over 50 countries and Xbox One less than 20. And in US Xbox One is regularly outselling PS4 each week. Apart from only 1 week. I was lead to believe Xbox One demand was lower. Xbox should get a nice boost when it releases in the 35 or so countries which only has PS4 at the moment.


Eh, wait until the Holidays are well and truely done. When we know that pent up demand has been met and one or both arent struggling to keep up with said demand. Right now the hardware sales dont really matter. Theyre selling what theyre producing. Look at the Wii U launch and how well it was seemingly doing, right up until we hit January and it tanked hard.

That said, even tying with Xbox One in America will be seen as a pretty big win for Sony after the bloodbath that was 360 vs PS3 there. Going by VGChartz numbers they currently hold a ~200k lead in the main Xbox stronghold. Sony will be more than happy with that while the rest of the world is choosing PS4.

Almost two thirds of the Xbox One sales are coming from the US alone. When the holiday season is no more and we start to see the huge drops, the rest of the world simply arent going to be buying Xbox One in any meaningful number. Its already posting relatively poor numbers outside of the US. I think its gonna be quite similar to what we saw with Wii U sales wise up until Titanfall, where it will see a modest boost.

And talking about countries yet to have a release, lets not forget what PS4 has in February shall we?


This is exactly what Ive been trying to say. People keep saying "Wow X1 is doing well". How is losing your biggest market share (they had around a 20 mil lead with 360) a good thing? I can guarantee no one at MS thinks this is a good thing or is happy about this. PS4 tying or keeping up with the X1 is a huge win for Sony and a huge loss for X1 that will end up with 10 million lost customers this is not a good thig. MS wants to keep all its previous users from the 360 and add to it.

You forget one thing they competed also with the wii last gen. the main competitor is just from an other compagny nothing more nothing less.

So basicly your marketshare story isn't correct



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chocoloco said:
Michael-5 said:
chocoloco said:

That is an ignorant belief. The games would have to be more addictive than herion.

Sounds about right.

So you say a week, or five of good sales will make it come close to outseling  the one and PS4 lifetime? Right.

No I say Mario Kart is about as addictive as Heroin.

But seriously Super Mario 3D Worlds did elevate WiiU's status from "Doomed" to "Doing alright." A Couple more CC's of quality games and that could change to "Pretty good." I know PS4 will outsell the WiiU in only a few months, but I'm being hopeful that the WiiU can hold off XBO until those games arrive, and then outsell it on a weekly basis (not just 1 week) there on after.

PS4 & XBO, unlike the WiiU, have very few quality exclusives announced, they already pulled out there big guns. XBO has Titanfall, which is also available on PC/360, and PS4 has InFamous, a series which typically sells only around 2 million copies per game. They might get more stuff in fall 2014, but so might WiiU

Mario Kart on the other hand statistically sells 1/3rd as many units as there are consoles available (+30 million on the Wii, but only 7 & 10 million on the Gamecube & N64). Smash Bros as well is a guarenteed 5 million seller. These games won't push sales for 1 week, they will push sales for years.



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Michael-5 said:
chocoloco said:
Michael-5 said:
chocoloco said:

That is an ignorant belief. The games would have to be more addictive than herion.

Sounds about right.

So you say a week, or five of good sales will make it come close to outseling  the one and PS4 lifetime? Right.

No I say Mario Kart is about as addictive as Heroin.

But seriously Super Mario 3D Worlds did elevate WiiU's status from "Doomed" to "Doing alright." A Couple more CC's of quality games and that could change to "Pretty good." I know PS4 will outsell the WiiU in only a few months, but I'm being hopeful that the WiiU can hold off XBO until those games arrive, and then outsell it on a weekly basis (not just 1 week) there on after.

PS4 & XBO, unlike the WiiU, have very few quality exclusives announced, they already pulled out there big guns. XBO has Titanfall, which is also available on PC/360, and PS4 has InFamous, a series which typically sells only around 2 million copies per game. They might get more stuff in fall 2014, but so might WiiU

Mario Kart on the other hand statistically sells 1/3rd as many units as there are consoles available (+30 million on the Wii, but only 7 & 10 million on the Gamecube & N64). Smash Bros as well is a guarenteed 5 million seller. These games won't push sales for 1 week, they will push sales for years.

Hopium.   I do not disagree with most of that, but I am saying the Mario kart and Smash sales will mirror the gamecube making it a lot less significant to the whole market as were these games significance on the Wii .

I also think the ones sales will drop due to price after the first six months or so (completely arbitrary guess) as the most enthusiastic gamers that do not care about price will have bought the console. The more price concious consumers will not be as motivated to buy the most expensive machine.