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Should the two countries become one?

Yes - Canada should join the United States 52 17.39%
 
Yes - through an EU-styled agreement 42 14.05%
 
Yes - through some other means 3 1.00%
 
No - though I support fur... 109 36.45%
 
No - the two countries ar... 68 22.74%
 
Other/Not Sure 17 5.69%
 
Total:291
the2real4mafol on 29 January 2014

Harper would fit in, in the south very well. Destroying the environment to make a profit and abolishing all regulations. Perfect republican.

But seriously i don't see this ever happening due to the differences between Americans and Canadians, especially in there attitudes towards things in general.



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Metrium on 29 January 2014

As a Quebecer I want Quebec to leave Canada and become it's own country. So as you can guess, I'm totaly against this idea. We are not canadians so we are obviously farther from being americans.



 

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NolSinkler on 31 January 2014
Metrium said:
As a Quebecer I want Quebec to leave Canada and become it's own country. So as you can guess, I'm totaly against this idea. We are not canadians so we are obviously farther from being americans.


That doesn't make sense.  If you're not Canadians, that makes you more likely to be an American, since Americans are also not Canadian.  Of course, I'd love it if Canadians could also be Americans...



sales2099 on 31 January 2014
CavemanCavan said:
I wouldn't be part of the black hole that America is becoming with horrid laws and blatant fear mongering media. No chance in hell.

You just described Syria.

You would be surprised how good the US is compared to the majority of the countries on Earth. People really take their freedoms and quality of life for granted.



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sales2099 on 31 January 2014
HesAPooka said:
sales2099 said:

We have similar culture, that is about it. No point in joining borders.

Besides, I rather do like my free health care and my future wife having paid maternity leave. I do envy their rock bottom house prices and cheap prices for clothing/fast food.


Agreed, as someone from the Vancouver area this really is something that I wish we had here. American prices even in bigger cities just seem more reasonable. Our prices are just insane given our population and the amount of land we have.

Vancouver? Damn I live on the outskirts of Toronto and even then the housing market is really pricey. But Vancouver.....you have my sympathies :P



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DD_Bwest on 31 January 2014
NolSinkler said:
Metrium said:
As a Quebecer I want Quebec to leave Canada and become it's own country. So as you can guess, I'm totaly against this idea. We are not canadians so we are obviously farther from being americans.


That doesn't make sense.  If you're not Canadians, that makes you more likely to be an American, since Americans are also not Canadian.  Of course, I'd love it if Canadians could also be Americans...


 but if a canadian isnt a quebecer, wouldnt the canadian then be more likely to be american then?  Just because 2 things are not like a third thing, doesnt mean the first 2 are closer to that of eachother. 

What hes saying is Those in quebec who want independence  see themselves as their own identity, and dont want to be part of the others.  Quebec has a different culture then most of the rest of canada, and is very different then the yanks.



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NolSinkler on 31 January 2014
DD_Bwest said:
NolSinkler said:
Metrium said:
As a Quebecer I want Quebec to leave Canada and become it's own country. So as you can guess, I'm totaly against this idea. We are not canadians so we are obviously farther from being americans.


That doesn't make sense.  If you're not Canadians, that makes you more likely to be an American, since Americans are also not Canadian.  Of course, I'd love it if Canadians could also be Americans...


 but if a canadian isnt a quebecer, wouldnt the canadian then be more likely to be american then?  Just because 2 things are not like a third thing, doesnt mean the first 2 are closer to that of eachother. 

What hes saying is Those in quebec who want independence  see themselves as their own identity, and dont want to be part of the others.  Quebec has a different culture then most of the rest of canada, and is very different then the yanks.

Not according to Set Theory.  Canadians are NOT American (definitionally), implying that the set of things Canadian are mutually exclusive to the set of things American.  Quebecers are NOT Canadian (given by first post here), meaning that they do not belong to the set of things Canadian, implying that they may still belong to the things American.

Simply:
Canadians = A
Americans = B
Quebecers = C

A intersect B = empty set
A intersect C = empty set
This is the given information.  Given this information we cannot conclude whether B intersect C is the empty set or not.



-CraZed- on 31 January 2014
damoxuk said:
Lots of similarities but also totally different health systems. Canada is more akin to our NHS in that's it's free to all people taxpayers rather than the rich favouring US system.


Tell that to all the Candaians we get here in WA state crossing the border to get treatment for things that either have them waiting months to years or for procedures not available there. I know I am a nurse and we get them all the time here.

And now that we have a nationalized health care law (ACA) instead of just higher taxes those of us who pay our way through life get to experience higher premiums, copays and deductibles which equals  less money in our pockets for our own families well being.

And the rich don't need ANY system including Canada's since they have the money to travel to places where they can get the procedures etc. not paid for under a single payer system. The only thing accomplished by "free" health care is locking in those who have just enough to pay for it (through taxation or higher premiums) but not enough to flee said system or the power to resist it and instilling that sense of entitlement in those who don't pay anything for it.

Free doesn't = good or better.



bucky1965 on 31 January 2014
-CraZed- said:
damoxuk said:
Lots of similarities but also totally different health systems. Canada is more akin to our NHS in that's it's free to all people taxpayers rather than the rich favouring US system.


Tell that to all the Candaians we get here in WA state crossing the border to get treatment for things that either have them waiting months to years or for procedures not available there. I know I am a nurse and we get them all the time here.

And now that we have a nationalized health care law (ACA) instead of just higher taxes those of us who pay our way through life get to experience higher premiums, copays and deductibles which equals  less money in our pockets for our own families well being.

And the rich don't need ANY system including Canada's since they have the money to travel to places where they can get the procedures etc. not paid for under a single payer system. The only thing accomplished by "free" health care is locking in those who have just enough to pay for it (through taxation or higher premiums) but not enough to flee said system or the power to resist it and instilling that sense of entitlement in those who don't pay anything for it.

Free doesn't = good or better.

It's not free here either. Our tax dollars pay for it. Nothings free with capitalism.



DucksUnlimited on 31 January 2014

This idea wouldn't be fair to Canadians.