hahaha not really, an average electronic stuff store. I was waiting while my brother and my father bought a pro camera for him, and those where the most striking things (they sold a 50" TV too and other stuff, but i was talking about gaming stuff (yeh, apple)

Well don't really believe what stores say though because they have no clue how much shipment they will get, one of the bigger supermarkets in my neighbourhood got a second shipment of exactly 3 consoles....

Takes literally 1 click on bigjons profile to see his system of choice from where his most games comes from is stated as the PC, also he appears to own a large number of DS/Wii games, He didn't just make a his post because he is a fan of a certain system it would be like if someone called "Imadrughatingcop" posted comments in a thread about legalizing drugs, you know..... your name implies you aren't impartial to the argument to begin with.

Was an odd name to begin with anyway, you surely picked it without much thought of a longstanding name you would use since it only refers to a single console this generation, if it was "Microsoft wins" at least it would have some meaning outside this gen.

99.9% of ps4's have been sold in New Zealand, theres still one retailer selling them exclusively on their online store but have jack all left, but you wont be able to purchase any in stores nationwide til Jan-March. Xbox One is still available pretty much everywhere.

High management of the biggest chains could be making unpredictable shipments to prevent or reduce hoarding. While hoarding is HW sales anyway, for stores it isn't as good as selling the units directly to each real end-user (*), because until the hoarder manages to resell them, they won't produce SW sales, that very often give them higher profit margins.

(*) in a slower period, hoarding would be better than having the units sitting on the shelves, but obviously hoarding only happens when demand is higher than offer, so those units wouldn't sit on the shelves at all.

Sold out in the Netherlands. It will be probably available again in the end of Januari :P

local Target got 16 in last Friday, they sold out between 6am and 1pm. I wanted one but didn't feel like sharing my CC info with the 40 million others that Target screwed...

My cousin is a GM of Staples and he said both x1 and ps4 are fresh out.

still haven't seen a ps4 console on a shelf.

Here in Germany you can´t find a PS4 :(