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Interesting how things are turning out for the Xbone. Anyway, Microsoft has always been the king of social integration and interactions through their different softwares.



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0815user said:
for all you people arguing about what the most innovative peripheral is:

i prefere to have innovative software (games) and not hardware. and if there is one thing that the last years have proven than it's that there's only one console dev who's actually trying to create/invest into innovative games.


Not so much to do with your post.... but is your username 0815 as in OBIS or Obese :o been wondering if you intended to name yourself this and can't get outta my head if it could have another meaning or was just 4 random numbers.

Also agree with you that I love a game that makes you think that is a clever use of something or a brilliant way to sell me products or DLC and make the companys happy while not making the user feel hard done by like with Street fighter X Tekkens terrible Disk Locked Content fiasco.

Skylanders... now that is amazing in my eyes, no other game can get away with selling DLC to children ( and adults) in such a fantastically charming way. Maybe league of legends comes slightly close with it's skins but I think the Toy you get to have as a collection which doubles as your personalized character just makes Skylanders in my eyes one of the best games of the past generation for doing something perfectly.



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guiduc said:
Interesting how things are turning out for the Xbone. Anyway, Microsoft has always been the king of social integration and interactions through their different softwares.


By buying skype and shutting down MSN messenger? Just waving the white flag to their competing social product right there.



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1) You should have checked out the PS4's sharing and streaming functions. I have done a ton with them already and they have more features than the X1's (Twitch, 15min of recording).

2) I am not sure what media functions are missing. I use it to watch Netflix and the web browser is much faster than the X1's (It's about as fast as my gaming laptop).

3) To say that the PS4 "Can never do some things the X1 can" is flat out false. All that snap and camera stuff done by the X1 NOW can be done by the PS4. Hell in BF4 you can lean using six axis (Which is way more intuitive and has been done is playstation shooters since the PS3). That is way more intuitive and accurate...



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Sevengen said:

I've seen both consoles at a friends house, got to spend a good amount of time with each, and while the PS4 is defiitely a powerhouse of a console, the X1 was the only machine out of the two that actaully made me feel like I was interacting with something 'next-gen'.

We played Battlefield on both systems and there's no doubt which one looked better. The PS4 version. Played Killzone also and can't really say I was all that impressed by it. Great graphics, but not really enough going on to make it feel like the vanguard shooter of the 8th gen. Sorta boring after a couple days. Spawn. Shoot. Die. Cruised around Sony's UI for a bit and there simply wasn't all that much to do, to interact with. 
It just feels like a more powerful PS3

The X1 on the other hand, the downgrade in Battlefields graphics notwithstanding, truly felt next-gen to me. Let me explain that a little bit. Every gamer understands that better graphics won't equate to a better experience, it's the level of interaction you have with the game that matters, and that holds true with the consoles themselves. 

Sony, again, brought a monster console to the masses, a graphical beast, but did so at the cost of innovation. No one buys a console anymore 'just to play' games. Those that say that are simply fooling themselves, intentionally, and doing so in an attempt to downplay the advantages that the competitor has. 
And this is where the X1 really shines against the PS4:
What it can do in addition to games, the different ways you can interact with it, what it offers as a complete package.

The X1, right now, can do things that the PS4 simply can't and will never be able to. 
The Snap feature is awesome, play your game while checking facebook, or Vgchartz at the same time, or video chat with your friend while both playing... the same game, or something different.
The Upload Studio. We must have spent 45 minutes or so just checking out the different videos that other players posted, some just a few minutes before we clicked on them... everything from a 5 second stream of somone's three point shot, to a quick video blog about Sports Rivals. 
It was all amazingly fast, intuitive, and seamlessly accessible right there on the dash.
The Kinect 2. Say what you want about it, hate on it if it makes you feel better, but the thing is simply awesome and a huge advantage for the X1.
The HDMI input, don't really need to say anything more about that. 

Sony went for more of the same, just bigger. 
Microsoft went for something different, innovative. 
Sony wins the graphics war... Microsoft takes everything else.
Pretty easy decision.


Nice try, Bill Gates.



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lilwingman said:
Sevengen said:
...

No one buys a console anymore 'just to play' games.

...


Alas, I seem to no longer exist.

Hahaha, my sentiments exactly.



theprof00 said:
FarleyMcFirefly said:
theprof00 said:

I'm not sure why you make it such a point to say Sony sacrificed innovation when they did quite a bunch of innovations.
Just because xbox one went over the top and added garage door opening functionality doesn't mean sony sacrificed.

EDIT: Additionally, and I'm not calling you a liar, but it sounds like you didn't even play ps4 as much as you say you did. Sounds like your friend got an xbox1 and you went over to play it. I guess I am calling you a liar. Oh no, but it's not because you didn't like ps4, it's just the way you gloss over the details "we checked out the UI but there wasn't much there", "played for a while but got bored respawning and shooting in killzone". That sounds like someone who is trying to be vague.

EDIT2: No cross game chat? No mention of streaming? Yeah, no, take your viral somewhere else.

PS4 is innovative?

Are you about to tell me how xbone is and ps4 is not?
Or are you just making throwaway comments to improve your post count?

I'm dead serious. Tell me how the PS4 is innovative... Tell me what new things it has brought to the table for console gaming... I just see a more powerful PS3.
I'm sure it has and will get many great games, but it is in no way innovative to the gaming industry.



1doesnotsimply

For me, I could care less about looking at facebook on my console, or any of that other stuff. It's all about the gaming abilities. PS4 wins in controller department, power, etc.

Based on PS3, PS4 will also have far more content than 360. For me it's a clear choice.




FarleyMcFirefly said:
theprof00 said:
FarleyMcFirefly said:
theprof00 said:

I'm not sure why you make it such a point to say Sony sacrificed innovation when they did quite a bunch of innovations.
Just because xbox one went over the top and added garage door opening functionality doesn't mean sony sacrificed.

EDIT: Additionally, and I'm not calling you a liar, but it sounds like you didn't even play ps4 as much as you say you did. Sounds like your friend got an xbox1 and you went over to play it. I guess I am calling you a liar. Oh no, but it's not because you didn't like ps4, it's just the way you gloss over the details "we checked out the UI but there wasn't much there", "played for a while but got bored respawning and shooting in killzone". That sounds like someone who is trying to be vague.

EDIT2: No cross game chat? No mention of streaming? Yeah, no, take your viral somewhere else.

PS4 is innovative?

Are you about to tell me how xbone is and ps4 is not?
Or are you just making throwaway comments to improve your post count?

I'm dead serious. Tell me how the PS4 is innovative... Tell me what new things it has brought to the table for console gaming... I just see a more powerful PS3.
I'm sure it has and will get many great games, but it is in no way innovative to the gaming industry.

you can try to work this against all of the systems tho.

Ps4 being a more powerful ps3 albeit with touch controller and sharing/streaming functions

wiiu bring more functional to what the wii did along with a 2nd screen not unlike nintendo did with the DS back in 2006

X1 has an upgraded Kinect and will have streaming later.

 

It's just very difficult to say something along the lines of.... This console Creates Rabbits made of choclate!!! I wish it were so easy but it plain doesn't happen.



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ganoncrotch said:
0815user said:
for all you people arguing about what the most innovative peripheral is:

i prefere to have innovative software (games) and not hardware. and if there is one thing that the last years have proven than it's that there's only one console dev who's actually trying to create/invest into innovative games.


Not so much to do with your post.... but is your username 0815 as in OBIS or Obese :o been wondering if you intended to name yourself this and can't get outta my head if it could have another meaning or was just 4 random numbers.

Also agree with you that I love a game that makes you think that is a clever use of something or a brilliant way to sell me products or DLC and make the companys happy while not making the user feel hard done by like with Street fighter X Tekkens terrible Disk Locked Content fiasco.

Skylanders... now that is amazing in my eyes, no other game can get away with selling DLC to children ( and adults) in such a fantastically charming way. Maybe league of legends comes slightly close with it's skins but I think the Toy you get to have as a collection which doubles as your personalized character just makes Skylanders in my eyes one of the best games of the past generation for doing something perfectly.

0815 means something like "not so special" where i come from. name can be interpreted as: "i picked it because i had to pick something but i really don't care what my name is."