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Soundwave said:
fatslob-:O said:
drake4 said:

its like platinum doesn't want there games to sell, they make good games but they make the art and main character horrible, it's like they want to make wierd shiq that turns people off.

@Bold If there games were so good then why is it selling beyond horrible ? People would buy it if it was good but apparently the market disagrees and sees it as trash.

What turns people off is a horrible game and there are many reasons other than art or main character. 


Honestly I'd tell Platinum to go full bore and make the game as weird as possible. Hell, stop pussy footing (no pun intended) around it and let there be full nudity in the game too. Sell it as something you can only get at GameStop or Best Buy. 

Get some buzz building around the game, at least even if it flops you've opened some eyes. 

Tearaway flopped, so did Puppeteer are those games trash too? Plenty of good games flop all the time. 

That sounds like a bad idea. 

@Bold You see good games don't flop at all because otherwise the market would realize that it's a quality game. 



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If we listen to the market, lets just have nothing but Call of Duty, Madden NFL, superhero movies, and Miley Cyrus music 24/7. Nothing else is worth exploring because it won't sell as much.



Soundwave said:


Yes lets just have the industry make military shooters and nothing but. 

I'm not asking them to make more shooters and BTW open world games are doing extremely well like GTA, skyrim, assassins creed, etc so there's no need to reduce gaming to 1 genre. 

I'm only asking platinum games to start making something relevant. 



fatslob-:O said:
Soundwave said:


Yes lets just have the industry make military shooters and nothing but. 

I'm not asking them to make more shooters and BTW open world games are doing extremely well like GTA, skyrim, assassins creed, etc so there's no need to reduce gaming to 1 genre. 

I'm only asking platinum games to start making something relevant. 


You know honestly f**k GTA and Assassin's Creed. And Skyrim too (gasp!!!).

Dudebros can go suck it, Nintendo should offer something different, even if they move into making more core games again. 

I'm sick and tired of every game being made for 16-year-old boys or the 30+ year old men who are still mentally 16. Gimme something different.

Bayonetta is wacky, so what. I say make it even crazier next time out. 

Should Nintendo broaden their horizons? Sure. Should they copy what's popular on the market now? Hell no. It's an oversaturated market. The only concession I would make is to have a FPS franchise, but even there I would not touch any of the crap military tropes that the market pushes out. Go buy the James Bond license and make a spy FPS. 

I'd rather Nintendo also embrace 90s style gaming (just as the Wii kinda capitalized on 80s style gaming) ... arcade racers and shooters and action games please. 



Soundwave said:

If we listen to the market, lets just have nothing but Call of Duty, Madden NFL, superhero movies, and Miley Cyrus music 24/7. Nothing else is worth exploring because it won't sell as much.

Your dead wrong, the industry doesn't have to be that way. Minecraft with notch has showed the way to succeeding even when being handicapped by budget. 



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fatslob-:O said:
Soundwave said:

If we listen to the market, lets just have nothing but Call of Duty, Madden NFL, superhero movies, and Miley Cyrus music 24/7. Nothing else is worth exploring because it won't sell as much.

Your dead wrong, the industry doesn't have to be that way. Minecraft with notch has showed the way to succeeding even when being handicapped by budget. 


That's what you're advocating, that companies should only make formulaic content pandering to "marketability". 

That attitude if anything is what's killing this industry. 

Nintendo has 6 billion dollars in the bank. They can afford to fund Bayonetta 2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 even if they all flop. 



Soundwave said:
fatslob-:O said:
Soundwave said:


Yes lets just have the industry make military shooters and nothing but. 

I'm not asking them to make more shooters and BTW open world games are doing extremely well like GTA, skyrim, assassins creed, etc so there's no need to reduce gaming to 1 genre. 

I'm only asking platinum games to start making something relevant. 


You know honestly f**k GTA and Assassin's Creed. And Skyrim too (gasp!!!).

Dudebros can go suck it, Nintendo should offer something different, even if they move into making more core games again. 

I'm sick and tired of every game being made for 16-year-old boys or the 30+ year old men who are still mentally 16. Gimme something different.

Bayonetta is wacky, so what. I say make it even crazier next time out. 

Should Nintendo broaden their horizons? Sure. Should they copy what's popular on the market now? Hell no. It's an oversaturated market. The only concession I would make is to have a FPS franchise, but even there I would not touch any of the crap military tropes that the market pushes out. Go buy the James Bond license and make a spy FPS. 

You realize that most of the gamers are 20 to 30 year olds, right ? 

Nothing wrong with making a game crazier, just make it relevant. Zelda and the older DMCs were as wacky as hell and guess what ? They were relevant! 

Again I'm not telling them to copy the the popular titles because they'll usually end up failing. 

A spy FPS ? I would rather another stealth FPS but nintendo doesn't really have experience in making stealth games either so I doubt that'll end well. 



Soundwave said:
fatslob-:O said:
Soundwave said:


Yes lets just have the industry make military shooters and nothing but. 

I'm not asking them to make more shooters and BTW open world games are doing extremely well like GTA, skyrim, assassins creed, etc so there's no need to reduce gaming to 1 genre. 

I'm only asking platinum games to start making something relevant. 


You know honestly f**k GTA and Assassin's Creed. And Skyrim too (gasp!!!).

Dudebros can go suck it, Nintendo should offer something different, even if they move into making more core games again. 

I'm sick and tired of every game being made for 16-year-old boys or the 30+ year old men who are still mentally 16. Gimme something different.

Bayonetta is wacky, so what. I say make it even crazier next time out. 

Should Nintendo broaden their horizons? Sure. Should they copy what's popular on the market now? Hell no. It's an oversaturated market. The only concession I would make is to have a FPS franchise, but even there I would not touch any of the crap military tropes that the market pushes out. Go buy the James Bond license and make a spy FPS. 

I'd rather Nintendo also embrace 90s style gaming (just as the Wii kinda capitalized on 80s style gaming) ... arcade racers and shooters and action games please. 

NO bayonetta has very good gameplay, if it had they made a decent character and great art, ti would have got a sequel
 on 360/ps3 but now they it's on wiiu cause nintedno funded it, and will sell much worse, and we will never see a sequel again, and it's a shame cause 60fps hack & slach games are disappearing



Soundwave said:
fatslob-:O said:
Soundwave said:

If we listen to the market, lets just have nothing but Call of Duty, Madden NFL, superhero movies, and Miley Cyrus music 24/7. Nothing else is worth exploring because it won't sell as much.

Your dead wrong, the industry doesn't have to be that way. Minecraft with notch has showed the way to succeeding even when being handicapped by budget. 


That's what you're advocating, that companies should only make formulaic content pandering to "marketability". 

That attitude if anything is what's killing this industry. 

Nintendo has 6 billion dollars in the bank. They can afford to fund Bayonetta 2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 even if they all flop. 

Once again you made a strawman argument implying that game companies should only make these same so called "dudebro" games. 

It takes more than marketability to sell games. The quality of the game comes first before it's marketability otherwise the game will recieve no advertising from other gamers. 

It is nintendo that is dragging down the industry with their so called "creativity" otherwise their games wouldn't be such massive flops all around. 

Can nintendo afford to keep making these net losses ? 



drake4 said:
Soundwave said:
fatslob-:O said:
Soundwave said:


Yes lets just have the industry make military shooters and nothing but. 

I'm not asking them to make more shooters and BTW open world games are doing extremely well like GTA, skyrim, assassins creed, etc so there's no need to reduce gaming to 1 genre. 

I'm only asking platinum games to start making something relevant. 


You know honestly f**k GTA and Assassin's Creed. And Skyrim too (gasp!!!).

Dudebros can go suck it, Nintendo should offer something different, even if they move into making more core games again. 

I'm sick and tired of every game being made for 16-year-old boys or the 30+ year old men who are still mentally 16. Gimme something different.

Bayonetta is wacky, so what. I say make it even crazier next time out. 

Should Nintendo broaden their horizons? Sure. Should they copy what's popular on the market now? Hell no. It's an oversaturated market. The only concession I would make is to have a FPS franchise, but even there I would not touch any of the crap military tropes that the market pushes out. Go buy the James Bond license and make a spy FPS. 

I'd rather Nintendo also embrace 90s style gaming (just as the Wii kinda capitalized on 80s style gaming) ... arcade racers and shooters and action games please. 

NO bayonetta has very good gameplay, if it had they made a decent character and great art, ti would have got a sequel
 on 360/ps3 but now they it's on wiiu cause nintedno funded it, and will sell much worse, and we will never see a sequel again, and it's a shame cause 60fps hack & slach games are disappearing

Then just go get the DMC reboot man. God of war ascension isn't bad either by any means. These are probably much better games than bayonetta.