The forza nonsense is getting old. there's a reason people prefer gt to forza and forza dose cater the the ricer crowed. Some people need to learn what the term really means. Sounds are over done and over the top. And the damage is a fucking joke in forza. This is coming from a ten year auto body and custom car builder. Btw gt does have mechanical damage, just turn it on.

Wow, first it was 75, then 79 and now 81. This is getting really interesting

Better is subjectivebut it just goes to show Forza has enough quality that trumps its lack of cars/tracks.

Thread drama lol, time for a thread lock. People take this way too serious. Forza is no better then Gt and vice versa, there are things each game does better then the other. That is all.

As for the guy who said PS4 would only look better...totally disagree, the freed up resources would make it much easier for better AI, damage, more features....

That works boh ways... GT is the best SIm on the market, with this amount of content....Enough to look past the rigid career mode.

All of GT's complaints go away when you race online, real AI. The physics and handling are still there.

See I like that you are able to give credit to where its due, which more then I can say for others here.

Forza is a fine series, I cannot deny that. MS best IMO.

You know GT and forza both suck compared to project cars though =p.

boom! from 77 to 80.
Next target, forza 5 :)

Haha at putting drama in the title. Hope project cars is great.