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Back in the day, Rare was one of Nintendo’s top studios. The company really came into its own during the N64 era. Rare ended up creating Banjo-Kazooie, Conker’s Bad Fur Day, GoldenEye 007, and plenty of other prominent titles.

Perhaps it was due to Rare’s success that Nintendo was a bit jealous of the studio. Former staffer and Nyamyam co-founder Phil Tossell has said that “Nintendo were often quite envious of us.”

Tossell told RetroGamer this month, “I got the feeling they thought our games were technically and artistically superior to theirs.” He also spoke about a rumor in which Nintendo recreated all of the textures in The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time after seeing what Rare had done with Banjo-Kazooie since Rare’s title “looked better”.

Tossell’s comments came about when asked if Nintendo ever shared code with Rare considering the Big N had a large stake in the company. He said:

No, we never had the Zelda engine or any code they did! We did see an early version of Zelda and that was a big influence on Dinosaur Planet, though. Nintendo were often quite envious of us. I got the feeling they thought our games were technically and artistically superior to theirs. Miyamoto would visit regularly and I heard a rumor they redid all of the textures on Zelda after they’d seen our work on Banjo-Kazooie because our game looked better!



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Damn, Nintendo. You even copy your ex-second party studios!



Wright said:

Damn, Nintendo. You even copy your ex-second party studios!


wait, so nintendo copies rare? so sony copies nintendo who copy rare who are a microsoft dev. so sony copies microsoft confirmed?



Nintendo copies themselves confirmed



Impossible for two reasons;

1: No one makes better games than Nintendo, or games that are equally good.

2: Nintendo doesn't care about textures, that's the concern of the stupidheads that play other consoles.

Rare did some amazing work on the N64, Goldeneye is by far the best and most local multiplayer fun I ever had on a console along with Turok and Mario Kart 64. The N64 was a magnificent console and had some amazing games. I still have mine and in working condition!



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The majority of rare games were copies of nintendo games anyway so it doesn't make sense (the ones that weren't copies sucked, aside from Goldeneye/perfect dark).



Haha ! What a sick joke

Rare was only able to pull those games because..... they had Nintendo´s managers to support their productions since SNES days. They learned a lot from Nintendo and used that knowledge wisely ... at that time.

Unfortunately much of Rare´s talent is lost today.



I think this happened with Monster Hunter 3 as well. It was in an Iwata asks interview. I think its a good thing they know when to step up in their games.



Probably the fact they could make goldeneye, i mean what nintendo dev doesn't envy a studio that makes a shooter



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Rare was Naughty Dog of sony back in the day.

Why would they be envious of a studio they owned?