50% attach rate of 2 units is one.
Still failure.

it is a real shame cause i like the gamepad concept however the lack of software to demonstrate its feature (other than off screen play) and to a smaller degree the lack of more modern tech in the console itself is the let down. Now i don't know if that is because they were so set on backwards compatibility and wanted to use the same ibm cpu as Wii and overclock it or they truly believed that the hardware would be enough. It all turned south when rumors started to surface about cpu no longer being a power 7 and gpu being downgraded.

In the end the console will have all these great games much like the gamecube but so little reward for it.

Let's wait for January.

That's odd, my Wii U really makes me happy. Well, i guess that if the internet keeps saying it is bad and doomed, i shouldn't argue.

No, it wasn't. It had a normal console lifespan. A fad would have been if it fizzled out in 2009.

i find this very funny, especially about nintendo looking tot he wii, you guys think its that easy to come with something like that, that kinda of thing happens once in a lifetime, its not easy to reproduce, they tried with the wiiu, the gamepad could have been the next big thing but it wasn't thats just how these thing usually play out, i'm sure nintendo would to make something successful like the montions conrols device on the wii buts its just not that easy.

That, and they also need to realise that they're on their own; getting 3rd party support should be considered a bonus, not a requirement for their consoles to be successful. HW must be designed for 1st party titles first and foremost because those will be what makes or breaks the system.

Nintendo made a big mistake when they didn't use the DS/Wii profits to heavily invest in 1st and 2nd party studios. Instead they had to rely on 3rd party scraps and they had to delay games because of a lack of resources. They have also missed the opportunity to support mid-tier games when pretty much every other company began to reject them. While mid-tier games may not sell systems on their own they're nice to have inbetween big releases to avoid droughts.

regardless if you think it was a fad or not, nobody really cares about motion controls a anymore,  not even nintendo, and thats what sold the wii imo.

That won't happen until summer when next sports titles are coming. They'll all be gimped anyways just like how cod is ps360 port. 

But by January we'll know if wii u truly has failed. Then you can lease my thread title rights.