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Dat cloud and 1080P! XD

We'll see how Project Cars run on these next gen boxes next year I guess, should be interesting.



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kirby007 said:
so why aren't we discussing AI and handling by the way? and only 1080p and aa?


Digital Foundry is pure graphical analysis.



pezus said:
J_Allard said:
ethomaz said:

Forza Motorsport 5: the Digital Foundry verdict

On balance, Turn 10's first effort on Xbox One is impressive for what it sets out to achieve in its 1080p60 presentation, but the raised resolution proves to be something of a Pandora's Box. As ever, the studio's exceptional car detailing steals the show in its authenticity, now bolstered by the materials texturing that sits well with the increased pixel-count. However, it's around this that Forza 5's shortcomings become apparent; now we see the lacklustre texture filtering, the pixellated foliage, and even the cut-out spectator sprite-work that line the road-sides. The game's improved lighting effects and motion blur go some way to obscure such issues during the core racing experience, but in tandem with the halved track and car count, it does seem to suggest a developer pressed to release an end product to a brutal launch window schedule.

It's also disappointing that, despite the supreme full HD presentation, Forza 5 offers anti-aliasing that delivers little to no effect on foliage or cars. Stair-stepping can be rough in spots, especially in cockpit view, and given the processing muscle-power needed to push out this resolution, it makes for a surprising contrast with a more thoroughly treated - if performance limited - 900p game like Ryse.

With that being said, much of this only considers the surface experience, and we're pleased to find Forza 5's handling model continues to impress in its next-gen form. By building on well-forged relationships with like the likes of Pirelli, from whom test data continues to be sourced and entered into the game engine, Turn 10's work continues to improve a simulation that few besides Polyphony Digital are ready to match in the console scene. At its core, the racing mechanics remain fun and satisfying with a controller in hand, even if the gloss over the top can underwhelm.

In review, while the bedrock racing experience is as solid as ever, this can be seen as a stepping stone towards a final product that has yet to arrive; a work in progress if you like. Even compared to the build seen at E3 just a few months ago, differences in bloom, optimised LOD streaming and the remixing of each circuit's surrounding décor are apparent. But in its current form, although Forza 5 falls short in terms of overall polish, it sets a precedent for next-gen racing simulations by virtue of simply planting the flag in the soil first.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-11-23-digital-foundry-vs-forza-motorsport-5

Oh man sounds incredible, can't wait to play it. I am buying used though, can't support their DLC shenanigans.

Selective reading? This is the full last sentence: it sets a precedent for next-gen racing simulations by virtue of simply planting the flag in the soil first.

Doesn't sound very flattering

Thanks for reposting, should be awesome!



dahuman said:
kirby007 said:
so why aren't we discussing AI and handling by the way? and only 1080p and aa?


Digital Foundry is pure graphical analysis.

bit flawed way of reviewing



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kirby007 said:
dahuman said:
kirby007 said:
so why aren't we discussing AI and handling by the way? and only 1080p and aa?


Digital Foundry is pure graphical analysis.

bit flawed way of reviewing

it's not a review



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dahuman said:
kirby007 said:
dahuman said:
kirby007 said:
so why aren't we discussing AI and handling by the way? and only 1080p and aa?


Digital Foundry is pure graphical analysis.

bit flawed way of reviewing

it's not a review

Its not pro-Xbone so that is the point.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
kabamarutr said:
I want to try this game. I want to see by myself the differences from last gen and how enjoyable the game mechanics are. Racing games are my gig and I shouldn't miss it. From all the buzz around the game, I gather it is more like a Forza 4.5 (some people even said Forza 3.9), but since it's the first and only racer on X1 and next gen both, it is a definite Forza 5.


I think ethomaz (GT afficionado) tested it at BGS and liked... so gameplay shall be good (not GT good,  but you get it).


Yes...I'd like to meet him online, as`I am a GT enthusiast too and also an amateur racer. But why would the gameplay not be GT good? Because of downscaled grahics? Racing physics may have very weel been improved. (What about those Driveatars? Anyone had experience yet?)



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kabamarutr said:
DonFerrari said:
kabamarutr said:
I want to try this game. I want to see by myself the differences from last gen and how enjoyable the game mechanics are. Racing games are my gig and I shouldn't miss it. From all the buzz around the game, I gather it is more like a Forza 4.5 (some people even said Forza 3.9), but since it's the first and only racer on X1 and next gen both, it is a definite Forza 5.


I think ethomaz (GT afficionado) tested it at BGS and liked... so gameplay shall be good (not GT good,  but you get it).


Yes...I'd like to meet him online, as`I am a GT enthusiast too and also an amateur racer. But why would the gameplay not be GT good? Because of downscaled grahics? Racing physics may have very weel been improved. (What about those Driveatars? Anyone had experience yet?)

As far as I know, they still have some arcadeish gameplay in some aspect (like the speed fell)... Driveatar you would have to ask Selnor and Kowenicki (but that wouldn't help you much since they would say its the second coming)... also a GT fanatic, to sad I can't keep my wheel always mounted (still wanting to do the "pro" drive lessons).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
dahuman said:
kirby007 said:
dahuman said:
kirby007 said:
so why aren't we discussing AI and handling by the way? and only 1080p and aa?


Digital Foundry is pure graphical analysis.

bit flawed way of reviewing

it's not a review

Its not pro-Xbone so that is the point.

this game being a simulator revolves around handling and control and ai is being judged on graphical facts like aa

same like putting civ:rev up there =total nonsense, it looking nice is a benefit not the goal



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Yeah I was thinking what made this game next gen was more the AI than the graphics.



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