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fatslob-:O on 07 November 2013
curl-6 said:
fatslob-:O said:
forethought14 said:
fatslob-:O said:

Memory isn't a metric for power but the wii u would still lose in terms of the standard metric of power.

Do you have a statement of them saying that trine 2 directors cut is limited by "power" ? There are more than one factors for graphics performance other than proceaaing power.

 

Mikael Haveri said: 

Basically that does require... well, not huge amounts more graphics processing power, but still considerable. If we would publish that

on other consoles, then I believe that there would be some small downscaling of what it is right now

http://www.videogamer.com/wiiu/trine_2/news/wii_u_graphics_would_need_to_be_scaled_back_on_xbox_360_and_ps3.html

I know that there are more factors for graphics performance, but he clearly says that the expansion requires MORE graphics processing power than the current generation of consoles to run. 

Processing power in terms of what ? In terms of being able to get closer with the theoretical performance ? Sure 

 

They don't sound specific as to what they were limited by. Are they talking about the cpu ? Do they mean raw shading power ? Could they be talking about fillrates ? In terms of integer calculations ?

Now you're just formulating excuses. Of course they're not going to give down-and-dirty technical analysis of TMUs, FLOPS, and ALUs, they're under NDA.

Their statements about it requiring more processing power, and their point-blank statement that Wii U is more powerful than PS3/360 speak for themselves, no amount of twisting can nullify that.

They'd be right if they had meant more achieveable pixel fillrate than both consoles but flops is a differnt story altogether and no need to get so defensive.



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fatslob-:O on 07 November 2013

God damn double posting!



curl-6 on 07 November 2013
fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:

Now you're just formulating excuses. Of course they're not going to give down-and-dirty technical analysis of TMUs, FLOPS, and ALUs, they're under NDA.

Their statements about it requiring more processing power, and their point-blank statement that Wii U is more powerful than PS3/360 speak for themselves, no amount of twisting can nullify that.

They'd be right if they had meant more achieveable pixel fillrate than both consoles but flops is a differnt story altogether and no need to get so defensive.

They blatantly said "it is more powerful". Not a lot of room for interpretation there. 

And there is a LOT more to graphical performance than FLOPS these days.



fatslob-:O on 07 November 2013
curl-6 said:
fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:

Now you're just formulating excuses. Of course they're not going to give down-and-dirty technical analysis of TMUs, FLOPS, and ALUs, they're under NDA.

Their statements about it requiring more processing power, and their point-blank statement that Wii U is more powerful than PS3/360 speak for themselves, no amount of twisting can nullify that.

They'd be right if they had meant more achieveable pixel fillrate than both consoles but flops is a differnt story altogether and no need to get so defensive.

They blatantly said "it is more powerful". Not a lot of room for interpretation there. 

And there is a LOT more to graphical performance than FLOPS these days.

I realize that! I'm not trying to dismiss what the WII U is capable of but it sounds like your misunderstanding my statements. I am not disregarding the WII Us power per se I am merely stating that it can achieve more with less! Enough calling out every statement that I make is an attack on the WII U.



Galaki on 07 November 2013

My $30 portable heater is more powerful than all these current/next gen consoles combine.



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fatslob-:O on 07 November 2013
Galaki said:
My $30 portable heater is more powerful than all these current/next gen consoles combine.

Right you are!



curl-6 on 07 November 2013
fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:

They blatantly said "it is more powerful". Not a lot of room for interpretation there. 

And there is a LOT more to graphical performance than FLOPS these days.

I realize that! I'm not trying to dismiss what the WII U is capable of but it sounds like your misunderstanding my statements. I am not disregarding the WII Us power per se I am merely stating that it can achieve more with less! Enough calling out every statement that I make is an attack on the WII U.

It does more with less, I agree. I misunderstood your posts as sidestepping Frozenbyte's statements.



pastro243 on 07 November 2013

You can see we are going into a new console war when you see so many banned users and moderated posts



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Cubedramirez on 07 November 2013

The middle east has nothing on the level of tension when it comes to debating the graphic abilities of a Nintendo console.



JoeTheBro on 07 November 2013
darkknightkryta said:
There's a certain person on this forum who's currently working on a Wii U title. Maybe if you ask her politely for an "estimate" she might be able to give you one.


If you don't mind me asking, which member are you refering to?



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