just out of curiosity when should they HAVE released? Doesnt leave them a big window.

Not everything is about exact numbers, sometimes it is about trends. Don;t you think so?

well things looked good for Wii U before launch.

Some launch exclusives, EA's unprecedented support so people were expecting it would do 8-10million.

Then EA dropped of the planet and Nintendo was stuck with no games to push out and things stalled to a crawl..

Similar thing happened with the 3DS lanch where they hoped 3rd parties would release games and nothing happened, so they had to play catchup.

but now I don't think it can even reach that.



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In that case the WiiU is doing even worse, because it had a strong start and now is trending way below those console's lowest points. The PS3 and 360 trended up with time.

I don't see how anyone could have expected it to ride off the success of the wii when the wiiU is the polar opposite of the wii.
 I made a thread when the wiiU had just launch highlighting all the problems it will face but nobody listened to me, I was foolish everyone said for me not believing in the gamepad.... ah here it is

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=150379&page=1

I think in that thread I had a worst case scenario of it attaining gamecube level sales.

I expected PS3/360 first year, maybe a bit better. That said, I did not expect the games promised for the launch window to arrive so late and I didn't expect it selling so low that's for sure. It can turn it around but it's still performing very bad. MK8 can't come soon enough.

Thing is if the Gamepad was a risky idea from the start, I can't help but think it's even worse that Nintendo don't understand its strengths. It really is an opposite direction to the motion play, yet from the games being released it looks like they don't get that concept. 

At least 9m. Now that looks like LTD numbers.

I never thought the Wii U would be successful so a year later none of this is surprising. I may have been generous calling this the next Gamecube though.

I thought it would be much more successful than it's been. I think few unbiased people would have honestly predicted it doing quite this bad.

I don't know if I ever thought of true lifetime numbers, but I did figure loyal Nintendo fans would have had it zoom past 5 million for sure by now, with 10 million by the end of 2013 a certainty. That's not the case.

I expected more interest in the 3rd party games, more high-end 1st party games and much better marketing. This fall will be huge for the system, with Mario 3D, Wii -Sports Club, -Fit and -Party and same-day launches of the major 3rd party titles, as well as the price cut and better bundles. And it really needs a solid marketing push.