Titanfall, not that 360 needs exclusives to sell as well as WiiU, it's been doing it all year and is doing it now.

Well 6 million the wii u will achieve easily in my opinion

Misread i thought u mean 6 million total sales

Titanfall is not exclusive to the 360. It isn't releasing until mid-march, by which point the XO is supposed to have sold some 5 million consoles, right?

But this isn't about how "few" 360s are going to sell in the next 6 months. This is about the realistic expectation that the 360 should sell about 3-3.5 million consoles this quarter, and the decent likelihood that the Wii U will actually outsell it. 4 million for the quarter is plenty realistic for the Wii U.

Since when did it matter if a game was exclusive??? Multiplats don't push systems now? If that's the case how the heck has Microsoft shipped 4m~ 360's this year, they've only had Gears Judgement early in the year. Fact is 360 will be getting multiplats over the holiday and Q1 that will sell systems.

360 will ship at least 4m in the holiday Q, and 1m in Q1. Not 3- 3.5m ..

4m for Wiiu suggests 1m in nov NPD and 1m in dec NPD (if not more) not realistic.

Even if you wanted it to sell that much there won't be that much stock on shelves.

Not sure it means that much, but yeah definitely more than 50% Europe is way under half of what WiiU is doing in the US, and Japan will get a modest boost with Mario. PS3 has always stumbled around 1 - 1.2m in the US every holiday, I don't see how WiiU is going to easily surpass that when it's still only doing 100k in a 5 week month with Zelda and price cut ...

I said the 360 has no comparable exclusives in that period, and you countered with a multiplat. It mattered that a game was exclusive when I used the phrase "comparable exclusives." Why didn't you just say Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Battlefield 4, etc? Those are also multiplats. 360 will have some games, but none of them are exclusive. Wii U has some multiplats as well as a fair number of big exclusives.

Think what you will. The 360 hasn't sold 4 million yet this year, and while it's possible it will have over 50% of its yearly sales in the fourth quarter alone, it may not be particularly likely for an 8-year-old console with its successor releasing this month.

You still offer no justification for why a 4 million quarter for the Wii U is "not realistic." You broke it down into one number and said it's impossible without reason. Care to be more specific?

Right, well it doesn't matter like I said. 360 has been fueld by multilats all this year and has shipped more than 4 times the WiiU with it's 4 or 5 exclusives so far? Games are games and they sell systems, see GTAV.

360 did 5.9m last holiday season, it isn't dropping 50% yoy. Shipments all this year combined are down less than 20%.

Look at my convo with Pezus, US will be at the least 50% WiiU sales (if not a lot more) the console isn't going from 100k in September (and likely in October) to 1.2m+ in Nov and then again in Dec.

C'mom, we got the news in the first time it came out. Wiiu is doing bad and should feel bad, we get, move on...

it does include WWHD sales... unless Nintendo some how had technology that instantly shipped units to stores.

Nintendo needs to revise their forecast. it's borderline ridiculous.