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Yakuzaice on 02 November 2013
Jazz2K said:

The comparison stands... there are many sites and a lot of people that are ready to diminish consoles that are not as capable graphicaly as the most powerful one. Like putting WiiU aside because it can't compete with next gen graphicaly but Nintendo produce some of the best games in the industry. Some people don't care for super graphics upgrade they are satisfied with Mario Kart 8 graphics and just because it can't produce Forza 5 graphics they have what's most important and that is fun. Their needs is having fun mostly and only powerful graphics don't procure them that.

Same thing for Xbox. I will buy an X1 for many reasons, graphics is one of them but there are many more reasons beside graphics resolution. To me Kinect 2 is a huge feature that is well worth the extra 100$. I don't care if a game like COD is upscaled to 1080p instead of being native 1080p. All I care about is what I want for the family/friends/girlfriend and X1 will provide just that. To my eyes 100$ to get all that is ok because I don't just play games alone.

Different people, different needs. If the videogame media and faboys could stop sucking resolution's d*ck then they wouldn't make all this fuss about B4 and COD. If they could spend more time talking about the new features of the games, what they changed and what makes them better than previous iterations it'd be great. All I hear about Killzone is how good the graphics are, but how does it play? Ryse is a pretty game but it's fun to talk about the gameplay (when fanboys don't derail everything to bash on the 900p resolution) and history. Dan Greenwalt does a good job talking about what makes Forza 5 a better game than Forza 4, how the clouds help with AI etc.

The gaming media should take note and talk about the games, their features and what makes them better than other games, resolution doesn't make Killer Instinct a less appealing title than Drive Club...

You don't seem to make any argument for people considering the PS4 or XBO to be comparable to your average car buyer, or even computing horsepower to be comparable to automobile horsepower.  So, no, I guess the comparison doesn't stand.

So why are your needs important, but anyone who considers power/resolution important is under the influence of "brainwashing propaganda"?  You say "Different people, different needs" and then immediately disregard people different from you.  Pretty sure the gaming community has made a far larger deal of this than the press, so your thesis is faulty anyway.



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Videokameras on 02 November 2013

So then why is Wii u not comparable?



Jazz2K on 02 November 2013
Yakuzaice said:
Jazz2K said:

The comparison stands... there are many sites and a lot of people that are ready to diminish consoles that are not as capable graphicaly as the most powerful one. Like putting WiiU aside because it can't compete with next gen graphicaly but Nintendo produce some of the best games in the industry. Some people don't care for super graphics upgrade they are satisfied with Mario Kart 8 graphics and just because it can't produce Forza 5 graphics they have what's most important and that is fun. Their needs is having fun mostly and only powerful graphics don't procure them that.

Same thing for Xbox. I will buy an X1 for many reasons, graphics is one of them but there are many more reasons beside graphics resolution. To me Kinect 2 is a huge feature that is well worth the extra 100$. I don't care if a game like COD is upscaled to 1080p instead of being native 1080p. All I care about is what I want for the family/friends/girlfriend and X1 will provide just that. To my eyes 100$ to get all that is ok because I don't just play games alone.

Different people, different needs. If the videogame media and faboys could stop sucking resolution's d*ck then they wouldn't make all this fuss about B4 and COD. If they could spend more time talking about the new features of the games, what they changed and what makes them better than previous iterations it'd be great. All I hear about Killzone is how good the graphics are, but how does it play? Ryse is a pretty game but it's fun to talk about the gameplay (when fanboys don't derail everything to bash on the 900p resolution) and history. Dan Greenwalt does a good job talking about what makes Forza 5 a better game than Forza 4, how the clouds help with AI etc.

The gaming media should take note and talk about the games, their features and what makes them better than other games, resolution doesn't make Killer Instinct a less appealing title than Drive Club...

You don't seem to make any argument for people considering the PS4 or XBO to be comparable to your average car buyer, or even computing horsepower to be comparable to automobile horsepower.  So, no, I guess the comparison doesn't stand.

So why are your needs important, but anyone who considers power/resolution important is under the influence of "brainwashing propaganda"?  You say "Different people, different needs" and then immediately disregard people different from you.  Pretty sure the gaming community has made a far larger deal of this than the press, so your thesis is faulty anyway.

I didn't say it but yes if you like horse power over anything else then it's your choice and no one should tell you your choice is bad because their tastes are different. Again, same thing with cars.

What I don't like is that we hear far more about resolution than anything else. Graphics... it's like all that they care talking about is this. It's the media, isn't it there I should look to have informations about games? Most of the information we get is how resolution is important and one is diminished because of that regardless if there are other appealing features. Talk about the whole thing, don't make a big fuss over one minor thing. Those who fancy resolution will like the fact they mentionned it and those who fancy other things will like that they also talked about those other things...



Dark_Feanor on 02 November 2013

Well, with that logic, so the WiiU should cost about US$40, since is a hardware with no more than 10% the power of the all might PS4.

Too bad this is not how things works. There are tons of overpriced or unaligned hardware out there. From iPhones to nVidea video cards.

This is a new age, when hardware is one of the least things that realy go into the price. You have to considerer the services and the ecosystem. If a CoD Ghost matchs is twice faster to iniciate on the Xbox One, the resolution is pointless.



Videokameras on 02 November 2013

Dark it has more power than 10 of the power? Wii u is not overpriced, its probably a better deal than xbox one



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Dark_Feanor on 02 November 2013
Videokameras said:

Dark it has more power than 10 of the power? Wii u is not overpriced, its probably a better deal than xbox one


Why not?

Aren't they considering only the resolution and "horsepower" to justify the price of one device?

The WiiU IS 10x weeker than the PS4 and the Xbox One. If people defending the gamers from the "Doritocracy", and they says the PS4 has the magic just price of 399, so the WiiU should cost about 39-49 (alas the PS3 and 360), doné they?

 

Disclamer : this is a retorical proposition, as I said in my first post, the honest price of a device goes far beyond the hardware raw power.



Videokameras on 02 November 2013

Well the Wii u is only slightly worse than xbox one, but xbox is only half as powerful as the ps4.

The Xbox ond is much more like the wii u than like the ps4, But the Wii u is cheaper than ps4 and the xbox is more expensive.

Ofc graphic isnt everything, but people only said so when talking about xbox. But bashing wii u was ok.

So its really hypocrisy



BluGamer23 on 02 November 2013

Dat hypocrisy! .. hilirarious! Hurr durr I buy the more expensive with less power! ...



 

 

greenmedic88 on 04 November 2013

I don't believe there's anything to defend here.

My prediction is that there will probably be a lot less debate about the hardware advantages of the PS4 and the XB1 this generation for the simple reason that it takes a fair amount of denial, even this early in the game, to say that there is no difference.

Once reality sets in, this will transition into it makes no difference upon acknowledging the PS4 is a more robust piece of hardware because most people who want an Xbox are going to stand by the platform, whether it's for the TV functions, Kinect or the exclusives.