Loll well, threads like this scare me a bit cause there are soo many replies that its hard to follow but I do comment once every 4-5 months loll.

It's true that the wow factor would be gone, but so was it with Wii Sports Resort. Yet, people bought it because they liked that franchise.

Wii Sports no longer has a place in home consoles and the best way to reproduce that type of gaming really is a mobile device.
It's not exactly the same but with some changes, a similar result could obtained.

Some gameplay from Captain toad with the toad amiibo!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2Q5EY30Mbs

Haha, I think Nintendo will give third parties the middle finger full stop now. 

They don't need them at all anymore. 

There's no huge pressure on them now, if smartphone games start making them a nice steady revenue stream (and I think it will be even more than that) they have all the freedom in the world to do with the NX platform what they want so long as they don't anything crazy with it that would incur large losses. 

If speculation is correct and NX is some kind of Fusion platform that shares games/OS between home and portable play devices they can support such a system on their own. They don't need third parties and certainly won't be begging anyone or paying for ports. 

I think will be just fine in their books by just continuing to get Japanese third party support the 3DS gets and continuing that to NX (see: Monster Hunter). 

Xenobürado 3D Gameplay.

Well the issue with that is the same... Why buy both (console and handheld) when you can buy one? No one is going to buy the console if the game is the same as the handheld because it will look like shit when its upresed to 4k or even 1080p... 4k TVs are becoming more and more popular and when you play a handheld game on ur 40-50 inch 4k TV with the handheld res being less than 720p.. It will look ugly as hell so there won't be any reason to buy the console. Instead, people will just save their money and get a ps5/x2 which will upres a shit ton better than this will and it will have games that won't be avaliable on the NX. A game doesn't become HD just by plugging it into the TV, you need to redo the textures and a lot of things to make sure its actually HD and if they did that, then they are just losing money cause they are giving u a free HD copy that who knows how many people won't use and proper HD development again, costs money.

And the thing is, it won't have a higher userbase compared to wiiU+3ds when the people realize how weak it is... It won't sell magically just because it has more Nintendo games, it needs third party games in order to sell. Heck, the reason why the 3ds is where its at right now is due to both Nintendo games and Third party games like Yokai Watch and Monster Hunter. And not to mention that you will lose the overlap of people buying the console version and the handheld version as well as both hardware. I am sure a lot of people that own the wiiU also owns the 3ds. At most, it will end up being at combined 60 million which may be a respectable number but then you realize that its worse than sales of wiiU and 3ds and they will be exiting the console market due to it

And it may be speculation, but its annoying speculation that seems to get thrown around more often than it should so I would like to know why this is such a "good idea"

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Why won't they need third parties? When the NX will come out without third parties, the press will give Nintendo the middle finger and it will end up by being like the wiiU sitution cause a) it will be significantly weaker than the ps5/x2 in an age of going to 4k and b) zero third parties will have endless amounts of articles as to why people shouldn't buy the NX console portion

And just because they can make money from smartphones doesn't mean they don't want to make more money from their console/handheld devisions or leave the console devision is such a bad state that it will be irrecoverable in the future

And again, they do need thrid parties if they want to sell more consoles/handhelds which all companies do... Do you really want them to get out of the console business that badly?

Also, those sell pretty poorly in the west and I doubt Nintendo wants to lose more people's interest in the west than they have already

Shareholders wanted Nintendo on smart devices, now that they got their wish, they are overjoyed (see: Nintendo's stock price exploding today to the highest level it's been since 2012 before the Wii U launched). 

They will make money on NX, I'm sure of that. But now they just have the freedom to do it *their way*, they don't have to grovel at third parties' feet, if they want to support Nintendo fine, if they don't, big deal, no difference from the last 12 years. 

I don't there's a ton of pressure on NX anymore either, they can relax and induldge some of their wackier ideas now, it's not the end of the world if the NX say only sells 75 million (handheld + conosole combined assuming a Fusion design) instead of 90-100 million, provided they are making a lot of money from smartphones. 

It's quite possible honestly that very soon a smartphone game may become the most profitable game Nintendo has ever made. Candy Crush makes about a $1 million dollars a day, now factor that in over a 3 year period. 

This isn't really about what I want, I would like an industry to go back to Nintendo-Sega with Sony maybe be a teritary player. But that's not reality, I'm looking at this as a strictly business move. Even though I suspect there are those in Nintendo who are still bitterly opposed to this move, for the upper management it's probably a huge relief. So much pressure is off their shoulders now. 

What if the next handheld is strong enough to support HD games? Wouldn't that work then? I obviously don't know much about this, but I can't imagine it being that hard or expensive to slightly improve graphics on a game. Even smartphones have impressive displays nowadays, so I don't see why a powerful gaming device wouldn't have one.