Wait a minute. I see that some people are taking this as gospel but I'm going to need more than this. What does "anonymous retailer" mean? High level management, low level clerk, what? I'm gonna need confirmation on this, because, really, this helps the retailer more than Sony. Sony doesn't care where you buy the software, the retailer does.

meh, to plausible not to be true.  any popular product has forced bundels.  there were tons of instances where you couldn't get a wii without 5 pieces of shovelware attached.  it's kind of a dick move but it happens so often i can't say i'm at all surpised.

i mean.  for a little bit you could just buy a ps4 but then it was bundle after bundle after bundle..

It's not much money for some, because they want, to, want to play the games, new OS features....??? It's not rocket science..  dont understand whats so hard to figure out about it.

Trying to start offsetting hardware losses ASAP?

I want a bundle!! I wish sony would force it on me!!! They aren't in my country :(

Seems like an odd move. If I was contacted by a store saying I had to upgrade my launch pre-order to include a bundled game I'd cancel my pre-order unless one of the game options was a game I was going to buy at launch anyway. Either way, Sony would lose out from me, temporarily in the case of me cancelling my pre-order, permanently in the case of Sony selling me a game I already was committed to buying at a lower price than I had originally planned to pay.

So I find this a move that is rather hard to understand. But then I'm not the console pre-ordering type, so perhaps the psyche of the person who pre-orders consoles is different and most of those people will take the bundle regardless of the game options and buy other games along with the bundle and thus make Sony more money.

And I don't get the idea that I must have it now, so take my hard earn money even though its a brand new product with possible bugs that need to be worked out. I buy a lot of Sony products, and I know from experience, their software on most of their hardware need more work after launch date. It wouldn't surprise me if the OS needs a lot of patching in the first 5 months. The games will be fine, but one still has to wait a while for the developers to master the code.

There is too much hype going around, and I'm growing too old now to pay attention to it. The wait and see approach seems to work a whole lot better for me these past few years.

The only downside I see to not playing launch titles first is not being able to mastering before anyone else, but who here is really a gamer pro? It's not like any of you make money out of playing games competitively. I'm sure by next year, the launch titles will be yesterdays news and new exciting games with new hype will have taken their place. The price of launch tittles will have fallen 40%-60% and one can easily pick up 3-4 launch titles and not break the bank.

Now if you have money to spare, this doesn't apply to you, But why throw it away when patience can give you a better yield.