Consoles never had better graphics in the first place after microsoft released windows.

My argument presented consoles are prefered for their exclusives (and perhaps simplicity), not for their graphics. Therefore, regardless of better graphics on PC, I'd prefer console exclusives.

You might want to read your own last post but your right about console exculsives being more relevant than alot of PC games.

He is full of shit... at least 95% lol

Sure PC beats Consoles graphically. Then again most PC's don't

Everyone knows a 680 > Consoles. But since most don't have 680 or higher, who cares.

It's like say for example, if the fastest production car came from say... Japan, then Japan cars > everyone else's. Silly since most of the cars coming from Japan are fuel economy.

People do the same thing when it comes to PC's which hurts my head.

So Consoles > most PC's but not all lol

That was regarding the main OP at hand. If it's a graphic only argument, then he's right.(If we are talking about the absolute best or high end class cards only and, eventually, mid range and low range cards) What followed was tangent.

Oh god I'm dying over here

Yeah, I remember all those PS2 games in 2000 running 1024x768 at 60FPS with real time shadows and lighting.

Fun fact, Nvidia made the PS2's GPU, of course they would talk it up. Now that the tables have turned with AMD locking them out of the console business, they attempt to take advantage of the masses naivety and claim this time it's different.

Just say these new consoles are weak as dirt because they are, that's good enough without additional bullshit.

Read my post again. Console's "never" had better graphics in the first place. Jen's point was about the "possibility" of consoles having better graphics than PC's but apparently they never were better in the first place so he has a moot point there. 

Fun fact: Nvidia never made the PS2's GPU.

It's no longer possible means they are butt hurt that they didn't get used this gen.

Huh, you're right, no idea why I thought that... Still, even back in the day I remember it was a really fucking awful GPU that was only decent at poly pushing.