sethnintendo said:
Seems like the media likes to point the blame at almost everything else except these terrible medications. Antidepressants are known to raise suicidal thoughts and increase harm to others yet this is always quickly brushed aside when these shootings happen.
"There have been too many mass shootings for it just to be a coincidence. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed twelve students and a teacher at Columbine High School. Eric was on Luvox, an antidepressant. The Virginia Tech shooter killed thirty-two people and he was on an antidepressant. While withdrawing from Prozac, Kip Kinkel murdered his mother and stepmother. He then shot twenty-two classmates and killed two. Jason Hoffman wounded five at his high school while he was on Effexor, also an antidepressant. James Holmes opened fire in a Colorado movie theater this past summer and killed twelve people and wounded fifty-eight. He was under the care of a psychiatrist but no information has been released as to what drug he must have been on."
http://www.cchrflorida.org/blog/antidepressants-are-a-prescription-for-mass-shootings/
"Last July 20, James Holmes walked into a midnight showing of the latest "Batman" movie in Aurora, Colo., and opened fire, killing 12 and wounding 58, police said. The Denver Post reported Holmes was taking generic Zoloft, an SSRI."
http://www.wpbf.com/news/health/ssri-antidepressants-linked-to-mass-shootings/-/8788734/20036082/-/7cldhwz/-/index.html
There is more of a link to antidepressants and mass shooting than anything else. These drugs are prescribed to teens now when they didn't work so great for adults. Now they seem to have even worse side effects on kids. I suggest everyone should check out the documentary Generation RX which shows how corrupt the FDA and drug companies are..
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I understand that people get frustrated by the fact that mass shootings are blamed purely on lack of gun control when the issue is clearly more complex but this is not the way to go about posing a counter argument.
All you have done is propose a different causative agent with flimsy evidence, which again belies the complexity of the issue.
If you are going to state, "it is known that....", then you have to provide reasonable evidence and neither of the above sources hold much credence whatsoever.
The fact that people involved in shootings happen to be on anti-depressants, even if this was true 100% of the time, does not not necessarily mean that the anti-depressants are the cause. Such a strong association would absolutely warrant closer study but on the face of it such a statistic would merely prove that 100% of people involved in shootings sought medical (or allied health) assistance (or self medicated) at some point for either disturbances of mood, behavourial difficulties or overt mental illness.
Even if all drug companies are corrupt this doesn't really add much weight to this particular argument again unless we can prove their corruption has resulted in clinical trials being misappropriated or scientific evidence from relevant trials being witheld from publication.
I appreciate that you were good enough highlight a flaw in your own logic by pointing out the Australian example and yes, anti-depressants are prescribed in significant numbers here too.
I don't mean of any this to sound harsh but i think for this to be a good discussion we need to to look at the merits of the evidence on both sides and not merely try to show reasonable doubt by pointing the proverbial finger at something other than gun control.