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Lafiel said:
MDMAlliance said:
Lafiel said:

That is wrong. I don't need to be condescending to have character and be interesting.

And in an argument I trust actual arguments over adhominems, prejudices and insults.


Funny enough, here are the two posts that got me warned
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5165670
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5565816

The first post I personally don't think should have got me warned.
The second post wasn't me insulting him, but insulting his interpretation.  

Though I can see why I got warned on the second post.

Well, the first one is an ad hominem - I don't know what happend in that thread before, but while Deyons post wasn't very "nice", butting into the conversation to basically say "he is a troll" certainly was unneccessary, although I can't claim never to have done similar things. I guess I got away with it with "better" wording, but in hindsight those posts weren't up to my own standards.

The second one looks very clear to me, as I can only really read that as an insult directed at the person and not at the argument.


The first one I wasn't even talking to Deyon.  I was just telling the person to ignore him because he was (earlier in the thread) intentionally making comments to rile people up.  I wasn't calling him a troll, but saying his comments were troll comments (in the instances in the thread).  

The second one was directed at his attitude.  There are differences in all of these things, though either way saying if someone is acting like an idiot or saying they are an idiot they would take offense either way so I can see the reasoning behind the warning.  

There's a difference, though.  I wasn't doing what you were saying I was doing.



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I haven't been modded/banned before :D



MDMAlliance said:

Funny enough, here are the two posts that got me warned
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5165670

lulz!

I do apologize for the way acted in that thread. Sometimes when I'm bored I say stupid shit to get a reaction out of people ;o



MDMAlliance said:
Lafiel said:

Well, the first one is an ad hominem - I don't know what happend in that thread before, but while Deyons post wasn't very "nice", butting into the conversation to basically say "he is a troll" certainly was unneccessary, although I can't claim never to have done similar things. I guess I got away with it with "better" wording, but in hindsight those posts weren't up to my own standards.

The second one looks very clear to me, as I can only really read that as an insult directed at the person and not at the argument.


The first one I wasn't even talking to Deyon.  I was just telling the person to ignore him because he was (earlier in the thread) intentionally making comments to rile people up.  I wasn't calling him a troll, but saying his comments were troll comments (in the instances in the thread).  

The second one was directed at his attitude.  There are differences in all of these things, though either way saying if someone is acting like an idiot or saying they are an idiot they would take offense either way so I can see the reasoning behind the warning.  

There's a difference, though.  I wasn't doing what you were saying I was doing.

You see, saying/implying that somebody was regularly "trolling" like you did in that post ("this is Deyon we're talking about") really just is the same as saying "he is a troll". It doesn't matter that you said that to somebody else.

And in the second you wrote ",idiot." and not ",that's idiotic." or something along these lines. From my very shallow understanding of the english language the former is used to address the person, the later to address the attitude/train of thought.



Lafiel said:
MDMAlliance said:
Lafiel said:

Well, the first one is an ad hominem - I don't know what happend in that thread before, but while Deyons post wasn't very "nice", butting into the conversation to basically say "he is a troll" certainly was unneccessary, although I can't claim never to have done similar things. I guess I got away with it with "better" wording, but in hindsight those posts weren't up to my own standards.

The second one looks very clear to me, as I can only really read that as an insult directed at the person and not at the argument.


The first one I wasn't even talking to Deyon.  I was just telling the person to ignore him because he was (earlier in the thread) intentionally making comments to rile people up.  I wasn't calling him a troll, but saying his comments were troll comments (in the instances in the thread).  

The second one was directed at his attitude.  There are differences in all of these things, though either way saying if someone is acting like an idiot or saying they are an idiot they would take offense either way so I can see the reasoning behind the warning.  

There's a difference, though.  I wasn't doing what you were saying I was doing.

You see, saying/implying that somebody was regularly "trolling" like you did in that post ("this is Deyon we're talking about") really just is the same as saying "he is a troll". It doesn't matter that you said that to somebody else.

And in the second you wrote ",idiot." and not ",that's idiotic." or something along these lines. From my very shallow understanding of the english language the former is used to address the person, the later to address the attitude/train of thought.

Deyon was relatively new at the time.  That's all I have to say about that one.

The second one, I shall break it down.
I said that I wasn't saying my anecdote was proof.  That part was telling specifically what I was referring to, then the comma and "idiot" part was referenced towards him, yes... but only for that specific train of thought.  I wasn't saying he is an idiot.  It sounds like a very subtle difference, and it is.  It's also impossible to tell my exact tone online, but at the time of writing it, I wasn't angry or outraged.  I was more surprised by his lack of understanding.  If it were something I said in person, it would have been said in a monotone voice rather than a forceful one.  If that makes sense.



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I've also a near to perfect reputation.

Banned almost 100% of the time(last two weeks sadly destroyed my close to perfection reputation,as they forgot to bann me.Seems the bann-button is out of order)



MDMAlliance said:
Lafiel said:

You see, saying/implying that somebody was regularly "trolling" like you did in that post ("this is Deyon we're talking about") really just is the same as saying "he is a troll". It doesn't matter that you said that to somebody else.

And in the second you wrote ",idiot." and not ",that's idiotic." or something along these lines. From my very shallow understanding of the english language the former is used to address the person, the later to address the attitude/train of thought.

Deyon was relatively new at the time.  That's all I have to say about that one.

The second one, I shall break it down.
I said that I wasn't saying my anecdote was proof.  That part was telling specifically what I was referring to, then the comma and "idiot" part was referenced towards him, yes... but only for that specific train of thought.  I wasn't saying he is an idiot.  It sounds like a very subtle difference, and it is.  It's also impossible to tell my exact tone online, but at the time of writing it, I wasn't angry or outraged.  I was more surprised by his lack of understanding.  If it were something I said in person, it would have been said in a monotone voice rather than a forceful one.  If that makes sense.

Ah ok, yes, I see the subtle difference there now, thanks for the explanation :). As you mentioned, over the internet it's just almost impossible to tell it's meant that way.



I did not get a warning for months!
I am in this "we ban him instantly" scenario right now.

For those of you who say something about the mods in here, be warned!

I was banned for this post:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5502216

Reason: "Criticizing the mods. There are a series of threads designed for feedback against the moderation team. Use them, and nowhere else"

So I expect a lot of bans in this thread then.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

I was moderated two times by the mods.

Only agreed with the first one.



Never got banned or warned either.

It's not that hard, I'm usually respectful enough. Though sometimes I lash out at something that I thought was utterly wrong, and after that I feel sorry and think "could've been a little more tactful" ... Apparently I've never crossed the line though, or it went unnoticed at least.