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Will you be buying one, or do you even care?

Hell yeah! 34 8.85%
 
Mabye 32 8.33%
 
Want to see some legit news first 75 19.53%
 
No 44 11.46%
 
Don't even care 72 18.75%
 
PS4 all the way! 92 23.96%
 
XB1 all the way! 15 3.91%
 
PC all the way! 18 4.69%
 
Total:382
Scoobes on 20 September 2013

We still know next to nothing about this machine. I expect Valve to have a few surprises in store for the naysayers.




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fatslob-:O on 20 September 2013
cheesecake said:
fatslob-:O said:
cheesecake said:
fatslob-:O said:
PigPen said:
This I would love to see.

Go get a PC to do it now. It will probably be able to emulate the WII U in like 3 years ? That way you can have the ultimate platform compared to a company that likely won't compete for next generation.


funny you should say that. the PS4/Xbox One will most likely be easier to emulate due to the simple fact that there is nothing stopping the hackers, no Cell/PowerPC arch, no foreign arch, they're PCs with Sony/MS taped on them.

Except none of you guys here know about emulation. The WII U's cpu is almost exactly the same as the WII's but only this time it has 3 cores instead of one and a bumped up clock while featuring a slightly more modern istruction set architecture. As for its GPU it has an insanely low bandwidth while also coming from the old crappy VLIW5 architecure. The only issue I see here is the EDRAM.

As for the PS4 and xbone I don't think any PC's could hope to emulate either of them let alone PS4 because DDR3 has a low bandwidth. Even though xbone features DDR3 it has a bigger bus width giving it the ability to have more bandwidth than what PC's feature everyday on DDR3.  

So when all is said and done the WII U is by far the easiest to emulate disregarding the lack of documentation ofcourse.


if you wanted to emulate a WiiU, you'd need to write some serious code for the PowerPC architecture and all that shit. you barely have anything  to do for a PS4/XboxOne emulator. it's always been: easier to program for = easier to emulate.

anyways, that last bit in your first post just proved that you are pretty much biased against Nintendo, i've seen you act like that on all the threads i've seen you one pretty much, that automatically makes you close-minded.

What was biased ? The fact that I said VLIW 5 was crappy ? (because it is)

BTW we already have a Wii emulator which is emulates the similar PowerPC architecture core in the WII U.

If they figured out how the WII works then they can mostly apply alot the same knowledge to the WII U.



Dr.EisDrachenJaeger on 20 September 2013

The WiiU has a Wii in it, but its built like a customized Xbox360. Apparently.

 

Do you have a 360 emulator? Put down the cool-aid.



fatslob-:O on 20 September 2013
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:

The WiiU has a Wii in it, but its built like a customized Xbox360. Apparently.

 

Do you have a 360 emulator? Put down the cool-aid.

LOL The cpu isn't anywhere near similar to an xbox 360's Xenos the Espresso design is based off the Wii's broadway cpu.



Dr.EisDrachenJaeger on 20 September 2013

I dont know why you're talking about the CPU in GPGPU device like thats how its going to be emulated.

The WiiU has shared embedded DRAM it for the GPU/CPU hybrid where it does most of the system processing



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PigPen on 20 September 2013
fatslob-:O said:
cheesecake said:
fatslob-:O said:
PigPen said:
This I would love to see.

Go get a PC to do it now. It will probably be able to emulate the WII U in like 3 years ? That way you can have the ultimate platform compared to a company that likely won't compete for next generation.


funny you should say that. the PS4/Xbox One will most likely be easier to emulate due to the simple fact that there is nothing stopping the hackers, no Cell/PowerPC arch, no foreign arch, they're PCs with Sony/MS taped on them.

Except none of you guys here know about emulation. The WII U's cpu is almost exactly the same as the WII's but only this time it has 3 cores instead of one and a bumped up clock while featuring a slightly more modern istruction set architecture. As for its GPU it has an insanely low bandwidth while also coming from the old crappy VLIW5 architecure. The only issue I see here is the EDRAM.

As for the PS4 and xbone I don't think any PC's could hope to emulate either of them let alone PS4 because DDR3 has a low bandwidth. Even though xbone features DDR3 it has a bigger bus width giving it the ability to have more bandwidth than what PC's feature everyday on DDR3.  

So when all is said and done the WII U is by far the easiest to emulate disregarding the lack of documentation ofcourse.


Wii U has a Multi-Core (3) CPU.   Sports a High Definition GPU, not a VLIW5 architecure.  I wouldn't begin to ask what that is you made up.  It does sport lots of EDRAM in a customize chip.  Capital was used for R&D to make the Wii U a specially designed console.  Developers will to have to use the Wii U hardware a special type of way to make games.  The Wii U console punches above it's weight.  

Valve Steambox could very well outpower the PS4.  The thought that some other hardware can be the powerhouse other then the PS4 got your panties in a bunch. And you know nothing about emulation, I can tell.



zarx on 20 September 2013

I don't think the Steambox whatever it is will actually have one spec. It's not going to be a closed console box I don't think. Last time Gabe talked about it he mentioned potentially having 3 different levels of Steambox ranging from a simple streaming box (like the Nvidia shield something to stream from an existing PC to a TV) to a fully fledged high end box capable of playing the latest games.



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 20 September 2013

Only if its Half Life 3 exclusive...

I think Half Life 3 is confirmed for real this time guys...

a) Valve has 3 announcements (http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/61927/valve-launches-teaser-page-countdown-to-steam-box-announcement)
b) Its on September 23rd (notice the 3)
c) Its in the year 2013 (notice the 3)



                  

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zarx on 21 September 2013
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Only if its Half Life 3 exclusive...

I think Half Life 3 is confirmed for real this time guys...

a) Valve has 3 announcements (http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/61927/valve-launches-teaser-page-countdown-to-steam-box-announcement)
b) Its on September 23rd (notice the 3)
c) Its in the year 2013 (notice the 3)


Except we actually know Left 4 Dead 3 is in active full scale development so that will be the game announcement.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 21 September 2013

Who gives a shit? It has no first party.