Lineup just depend on taste, for me who not like cars or fps, knack is the game i really want on ps4 at launch, and will be very good for my kid in same time.

Plus Ps4 have lot of indie game and free mmorpg when comming out.

Quality wise depend on taste but i think its more diverse.

Agreed.

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So XB1 is launching with Turkey Puncher? 

Wow. Can I change my pre-order?

It's pretty stupid to buy a console that you're presumably going to be playing games on for a good 3+ years or more if you're a core gamer for the launch line up.

Typically, if there are two games at launch that I'd actually want to pay full retail price for, that's a big "plus." Arguing over whether the remainder of a collection of mediocre/adequate games on a new platform somehow makes said platform more desirable seems kind of pointless to me considering those games aren't getting my money anyway.

Based upon disappointment I've had in the past with console/hardware launches, I'd say the first year of releases is considerably more significant as that takes into account any potential post-launch game droughts and hopefully includes that first real killer app that consoles generally don't launch with (I suppose Wii Sports counts to many).

That said, launch line up does matter more than it has in previous generations because neither the XB1 nor the PS4 will play previous generation games (until enabled by the magical power of The Cloud).

Presumably if you're going to pay $400-500 for your new box you're going to want to play something on it, even if it means buying some questionable, if not downright crappy first wave titles.

Yep, they never blame Nintendo for keeping Sega weak and Sega killing itself with bad decisions. Sega had chances to come back but they did not play the game wisely at all.

well, that 100USD cheaper price is the biggest advantage.

It's not quite he same thing. Tretton says "Biggest, most diverse" those are objectively verifiable claims. Does PS4 have more exclusive games at launch? It's a yes/no answer you just count the exclusive games on each system. Does PS4 have games in a wider range of genres? That's also a yes/no answer, you count the number of genres, and if that's equal you count the number of games in each genre and see how the genres are balanced.

A claim that Xb one has the "best" launch games is a totally subjective claim. You might say yes it does, I might say PS4 has the better launch games. We're both right because they are based on our own tastes. So MS saying they have the best games is an unprovable claim, but it's easy to make the claim because no one can prove they're wrong.

What was the point of his post? I was making a straight forward comment regarding all the talk around the internet about the PS4 being 50% powerful, not so much just Jacks comment.

But since you went through such a long post just to try and argue semantics, I would argue that the word "more" in more powerful already implies scale and is an easily exaggerated term.

To my other argument, the most powerful system has never "won" a generation. Meaning it was irrelevant for the most part when it came to sales. Obviously it offers other advantages, but in the entire scheme of things, it's irrelevant.

that's what all the free to play and playstation plus titles are for.  Also I haven't played Minecraft since it was a free to play PC game so I may check that out.