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Forums - Sony - Sony’s Shuhei Yoshida Talks About “Millions” of PS4 Preorders, Feels Like the “Challenger” in North America

Ledreppe on 11 September 2013

"I’m not saying that the PS4 is losing at the moment, but the Xbox 360 was very strong in North America. That’s why we’re working there with the mindset “we are the challengers.”"

I like his thinking.



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WagnerPaiva on 11 September 2013

Cool, I love this Shuhei Yoshida man and also Kaz Hirai, that creepy english mustached guy is also very cool. MS should hire some charismatic people like Sony does.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

allblue on 11 September 2013
pr3st00 said:
MDMAlliance said:
pr3st00 said:
areason said:

it is greater then 1 hence not singular allowing you to add the s at the end. 


You're right (therefore I'm wrong):

http://www.woodwardenglish.com/million-or-millions/

For an unspecified ammount which is still in the millions, we say millions indeed. Similar reason why we say "one million and a half", in this case it's exactly one million (plus half one).


Not sure if you're saying what I think you're saying, but if you want to say an unspecified amount that is less than 2,000,000 and more than 1,000,000, you don't say "millions."  You would say that it's "over 1 million."  

So if the population of a city is 1,350,000, you could say that the population is "over 1 million."   Usually people take that as less than 2 million.  If you say the population is "in the millions," they would think it would be at the very least 2m or more.  Usually people would think like 5m.


That's the case for my native language, Portuguese. Whatever unity you're using should be in accordance to what comes before the comma:

1,9 milhao (or 1,9 million)

and

2,1 milhoes (or 2,1 millions)

What I understood from reading the link I provided is that English works differently.

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FrancisNobleman on 11 September 2013
areason said:
Imaginedvl said:
areason said:
Th3PANO said:
so they hit 1 million recently and now he is talking about millions? trollolol


1.00001 million= millions

 

fail troll attempt 

Dude... 1.000001 million != millions lol... 
2 millions and more == millions...

Even if he was effectively trolling, you are plain wrong :)

It is greater than 1, hence plural allowing you to add the s.

The only language that i am aware off that considers million starting from 2 million is french. 

So you think that the ps4 has over 2 million pre orders? 


you can safely add portuguese (from europe) to that.



Talal on 11 September 2013
allblue said:
pr3st00 said:

That chick in your sig is god damn delicious. Got a name mate?


Jessica Nigri.



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nightsurge on 11 September 2013
kitler53 said:
nightsurge said:

So in  the OP is he hinting that the pre-order ratio is rather close between PS4/XboxOne? Where as Europe they have a higher percentage marketshare of pre-orders than they do in NA?


he said the ratio between NA/Europe is about the same as it was with ps3 which i'll take to mean there are more ps4 pre-orders in europe than ps4 pre-orders in NA as that is the ratio ps3 had.

the part about NA being bigger (and from above we assume a smaller # of pre-orders) is probably leading to the market share comment.  if NA is bigger NA should have more pre-orders right?  but he clearly stated they are still "wining" which suggests to me the pre-orders are close probably between the ps4/xbone in NA with a smallish margin in ps4's favor but ps4 is winning handedly in europe.

considering ps3's performance, this is fantstic news for ps4.  an early lead in MS's strongest markets will put sony far ahead WW.

Yes, sorry, I meant NA for he pre-order ratio comment as well, not just my second part. Stupid website runs so slowly on mobile browsers that sometimes words I type don't make it in to the post... :/



ironmanDX on 11 September 2013

Thread title is a little misleading.... This thread is clearly discussing the difference between million and millions.



MDMAlliance on 11 September 2013
pr3st00 said:
MDMAlliance said:
pr3st00 said:

You're right (therefore I'm wrong):

http://www.woodwardenglish.com/million-or-millions/

For an unspecified ammount which is still in the millions, we say millions indeed. Similar reason why we say "one million and a half", in this case it's exactly one million (plus half one).


Not sure if you're saying what I think you're saying, but if you want to say an unspecified amount that is less than 2,000,000 and more than 1,000,000, you don't say "millions."  You would say that it's "over 1 million."  

So if the population of a city is 1,350,000, you could say that the population is "over 1 million."   Usually people take that as less than 2 million.  If you say the population is "in the millions," they would think it would be at the very least 2m or more.  Usually people would think like 5m.


That's the case for my native language, Portuguese. Whatever unity you're using should be in accordance to what comes before the comma:

1,9 milhao (or 1,9 million)

and

2,1 milhoes (or 2,1 millions)

What I understood from reading the link I provided is that English works differently.


However the link you gave does not say differently from what I said.  I would say the reason you aren't understanding it is because your native language isn't English.  Mine is, and even though I have not heard someone argue this before, I have never seen someone use "hundreds"/"thousands"/"millions" for anything less than two of that unit ever.  (stealth edit: actually, the only time I have is when they are exaggerating, like it said inthe link.  But usually if they say "there were hundreds," it would usually be significantly less)

I'm 21 years old and I'm a college student now in my 4th year.  I think that qualifies as hearing the language enough to know what is and isn't right with something like this.  It can be a bit confusing, though.  If you don't want to take my word for it, I'll try to find a source that backs my claim.  Though having tried already, it is kind of difficult because no one seems to actually be asking the question.



kitler53 on 11 September 2013
ironmanDX said:
Thread title is a little misleading.... This thread is clearly discussing the difference between million and millions.


lolol.