marriage seems like such an arbitrary line to set.  wtf does it matter when you are in a relationship where you both care deeply about each other?  marriage doesnt magically change the relationship.

No problem. I hate it when people seem to think that what they consider that what's right for them must be universally right for everyone, and who judge other people's behaviour and personal choices (which in the end doesn't concern them at all). It's cool to see that there are people who aren't like that.

Very true. Marriage is really just a formality.

I think that in Western culture only guys are encouraged to loose their virginity quickly (it's a right of passage, and a very cool one too ). Girls however are enocuraged to do the opposite.

Anyways, people will find pressure from all sides to both keep or loose their virginity. In the end people shoudl be able to make their own choice, without being criticised that they made a "lame" or "immoral" choice.

As for the bolded question, if a person loves sex why shouldn't he or she be proud to have had lots of sex with lots of people?

Having sex really isn't as easy as you think, especially if you're picky.

That's not right dude :P

There are many pepole who never had the chance to have sex in high school, even if they wanted to.

THIS!

Man at the schools I went to everyone was having sex. A chick who was morbidly obese one of the worst looking chicks I've ever seen got Herpes. I was so shocked, then all my female friends started getting pregnant and all my guy friends got laid. According to my friends its very easy. They tell me all you need to do is go to a club get plastered and almost any girl will sleep with you. They are constantly inviting me to go clubbing with them and get laid.

I myself was invited to a Catholic Orgy in high school. This also shocked me , one of them approached me we had been friends in science class. He was like your Christian right. I was like yah. Then he said "A few of us are going to have a party tonight you wanna come", I told the guy I would and then he said their were gonna be a couple hot chicks and that they were gonna get it on. I was confused and he then told me it was an sex party and only Christian's were invited. I knew the guy was Catholic and I asked him why they would be doing something like that, he was like "We just confess in confession, do hail marry's and what ever the priest wants, then were good as new and when we have sex again we just confess and were good again". Long story short I turned him down.

But then again everyone seems to think my school was made up. Other topics I have posted in people have accused me of making up my school. But I'll be honest it was the most fucked up inner city school out their. Very sexual place!

Well Joel, I guess your school, if it exists (sorry, couldn't help myself ), is a very special one. Seriously, a Catholic orgy??? I've never even heard of someone from my high school throwing a regular orgy, let alone a Catholic orgy (is this a new tactic to gain new followers... 'cause it might just work!!!).

Seriously though, it's not very easy to get laid in high schools, especially if you have certain standars (morbidly obese girls... NO THANKS!!!). Plus, lot's of girls never put out, and you have to end up making crazy promises, like that you'll mary them, in order to get them to have sex with you.

I made a pact almost 6 years ago to my ex-girlfriend that her and I would wait until marriage. We didn't break that promise, but after she died later that month in a car wreck, I still carry that promise that I made to her. Call me crazy, but I wear a Promise Ring in remembrance to her and the pact I made and I won't break it until marriage.

Anyone who has lost their virginity before the age of 18 should not be proud, they are a clear example of their parents failure, a failure that includes the child drinking and smoking before the legal age limit, and/or trying illegal drugs,. If you try to defend your parent’s failure, then you are bound to repeat their failure as parents when you have kids of your own.

One who's parent's have failed to be decent, must accept their parents failure, and try to break out of the vicious circle, otherwise as stated above, they are bound to repeat the failure themselves, and so we get ever closer to realising the world of "Idiocrasy" (funny movie, but one that points where we are headed, watch it if you haven't and then you'll understand what I'm refereeing too.)

I define a 'decent' parent as one who has instilled good values and discipline into the child, to the point the child goes through the troublesome teen years (usually 13-18) with out having tried alcohol and cigarettes, or having literally fucked around like little hookers. Once the child is of voting age (usually 18), then they are free to do what they like as at that stage the parents have done what they can to ensure their child is a decent member of society. Of course there's more to good parenting than just preventing the child from trying tobacco, alcohol, or sex before the legal age, but these are the most common bad things a child can do and since it pertains to the thread it's self this is why I’ve only pointed out these instances.

My 2 cents.