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TheSting on 31 October 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
TheSting said:
LivingMetal said:


With my glasses or contacts I see just fine.  Thanks for replying, but it wasn't really necessary.


How much were your Sony glasses and contacts? 2 for 1 deal? 

Whats the point of this comment? Seriously, stick to relevant posts. 


Cool with me. 



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LivingMetal on 31 October 2013
TheSting said:
LivingMetal said:
TheSting said:
LivingMetal said:
TheSting said:
bubblegamer said:
TheSting said:
LiquorandGunFun said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why would you believe anything this talking head would say?

This is dumb. If it were that easy the thing wouldn't ship with it still on there. You have to download the patch so how is he wrong? Mountain out of a molehill some of you 

So he flipped a switch and made a patch available!

It still was much easier than he wanted us to belive, which no one logical did anyway.

You don't know if it's easy or not. Are you thinking about this? They have to patch the system. The system still ships with the DRM included. How is that easier than just shipping the console without it? 

 

It's a metaphor used as a joke.  Of course you're not laughing because it implies criticism of a company you are quick to defend regardless of how they have unreasonably presented themselves during this whole XboxOne fiasco.


What does this mess have to do with what he is implying(easy or not)? There is a ton of unwarranted hate towards Xbox but I'm sure you see that with your glasses on and ignore it. Thanks for replying but it wasn't really necessary. 


With my glasses or contacts I see just fine.  Thanks for replying, but it wasn't really necessary.


How much were your Sony glasses and contacts? 2 for 1 deal? 


Actually, I wear Acuvue contact lense and Fossil glasses, and they've served me very well.  I paid for them separately.  Sony glasses?  Never heard of them. I do have a PlayStation skullcap and a Nintendo skullcap.  I also have a Donkey Kong t-shirt that needs to be replaced soon.  I once had Donkey Kong shoestrings that I won out of a box of Donkey Kong cereal back in the early 80's.  But Sony glasses, maybe you can send me a link to check them out, please.



Captain_Tom on 31 October 2013
Pemalite said:
Captain_Tom said:


No no no.  Upscailed just means it fills up the whole screen.  That is it.


No no. That's not "Just it".
Upscaling does additional post processing and uses algorithims so it's not merely just a stretching of an image, otherwise the image would look truly crap.

Well of course it isn't exactly stretching it, but at most it just fills it in with missing pixels with guesswork which can result in some serious artifacts.  It is just converting it to a bigger pixel count, but not re-rendering anything...

Sources: http://www.engadget.com/topics/hd/2007/10/05/just-say-no-to-stretch-o-vision/

http://www.tvweek.com/news/2007/01/tnt_stretches_for_hd.php

http://www.hometoys.com/news_detail.php?id=15006671



ethomaz on 31 October 2013

I'm a good guy... so I will shows some example of UPSCALING.

720p NATIVE

1080p NATIVE

720p UPSCALLED 1080p Lanczos3 Sharper Filter

 

You will need do open in your PC to see the diferences because the forum DOWNSCALE all prictures



fallen on 31 October 2013

in fairness to mn/penello etc, all they have to do is point out the average joe probably wont notice any difference between ps4/x1 versions of games when actually running on tv, to defend their stance that the difference is slim. Power users may notice, but not the masses.

not saying i agree, but saying there's their out.



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Dunban67 on 01 November 2013

allblue 1 day ago:

"Reported for plagiarism, you obviously copied that from MisterxMedia".


Who is MisterxMedia? Where can I find him?

I assume you are kidding - I made it up as I went along




iamdeath on 01 November 2013

People still believe MS PR lol.



Too_Talls on 01 November 2013
Kyuu said:
Too_Talls said:
foodfather said:
Um have people forgot how awful PS3 multiplats looks when it launched???

If PS4 really is easier to develop for, than this is the same situation all over again. Shoddy developers, not shoddy hardware.


No, let that fact be forgotten for just a little while...............


If I've had as little knowledge as you two I wouldn't go around writing nonsense and call it "facts"

This is nothing like how PS3 was to Xbox 360..

1) PS3 used a unique/unfriendly approach in its structure. The CPU, GPU and RAM were extremely different from 360's. The Cell was far harder to develop for yet it had amazing potential. It had 2 smaller RAMs compared to one, larger unified RAM for X360, making the console struggle to maintain the quality of ported games. Whereas now, the architecture is pretty much one and the same.

2) The PS3 came out an entire year after X360. The consequences were massively harmful for Sony, which was apparently too arrogant to see it coming. Again, this isn't the case with the coming generation. We wont have a "leading platform" scenario like we had this gen.

3) The difference on paper between X360 and PS3 was never that big to begin with. The superior Cell was largely a mystery but everthing else was arguably inferior to X360's.. The GPU was downright worse and the split RAM caused problems with ported, multiplatorm titles.

 

None of these issues are present with X1/PS4.

It was a fact that launch ps3 multi plats were down ported from the 360 thus didn't look as good. so.....whats your problem with me using the word?



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iamdeath on 01 November 2013
Kyuu said:
Too_Talls said:
foodfather said:
Um have people forgot how awful PS3 multiplats looks when it launched???

If PS4 really is easier to develop for, than this is the same situation all over again. Shoddy developers, not shoddy hardware.


No, let that fact be forgotten for just a little while...............


If I've had as little knowledge as you two I wouldn't go around writing nonsense and call it "facts"

This is nothing like how PS3 was to Xbox 360..

1) PS3 used a unique/unfriendly approach in its structure. The CPU, GPU and RAM were extremely different from 360's. The Cell was far harder to develop for yet it had amazing potential. It had 2 smaller RAMs compared to one, larger unified RAM for X360, making the console struggle to maintain the quality of ported games. Whereas now, the architecture is pretty much one and the same.

2) The PS3 came out an entire year after X360. The consequences were massively harmful for Sony, which was apparently too arrogant to see it coming. Again, this isn't the case with the coming generation. We wont have a "leading platform" scenario like we had this gen.

3) The difference on paper between X360 and PS3 was never that big to begin with. The superior Cell was largely a mystery but everthing else was arguably inferior to X360's.. The GPU was downright worse and the split RAM caused problems with ported, multiplatorm titles.

 

None of these issues are present with X1/PS4.

Yep, exactly.....Good post.



eyeofcore on 01 November 2013

Main and primary reason why a lot of games on Xbox One are below 1080p and even 720p is because of eSRAM that is used for GPU since developers need to learn to work with it and when they do then Xbox One will have a chance to outshine PlayStation 4 and since eSRAM is 28nm like the GPU then Microsoft most likely embedded it into GPU thus it will have way higher bandwidth than PlayStation 4 so it will be more efficient and more complex things can be done, since Xbox One has a weaker GPU I think that eSRAM will help to make it neck to neck and DDR3 RAM is fast enough and better for the CPU.

Also don't trust Sony fanboys, Sony was going to do the same thing as Microsoft and MIcrosoft was the sucker who went first and Sony said "O shit!" when they saw the negative reaction, I would not be surprised if some hackers/homebrews decide to not update PlayStation 4 and hack it and maybe they find out that Sony planned DRM.

Sony is a cocky company, that is why their fanbase is so dumb... They ruined gaming and they are worth only shit right now since 3rd party games are not as good as before nor those games are exclusives anymore form 3rd party.

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