No, the heat sink is fat as fuck with a fat fan on top. Fat heat sink with fat fan take out a lot of heat. It's overkill. Why go overkill on cooling? Maybe to allow for upclocking? Of course they will start shrinking the hardware later on, but that is later on. Once a standard is finalized and fine tuned, then they will start shrinking. If fat fuck heat sink wasn't needed, so be it. Start shrinking. The point is, it was designed beyond it's standard operating conditions. If they put a small heatsink that was just enough to handle  1.6Ghz, then they would have been screwed already and not have been able to get 1.7Ghz.

This is complete nonsense.  Microsoft already stated that they're selling the Xbox One at a slight profit or at the worst breaking even.  This is a $600 GPU.  By itself it's more expensive than the entire console.  It's nonsense.

Except that the benefit you get from overclocking is hardly a 1:1 ratio.  It's much lower.  They'll never be able to make their GPU more powerful than the one in the PS4.  Ever.  It would catch fire before it could push out that many TFlops.  So while the size of their console is questionable, and I really question the purpose of making it so large even with overclocking, their parts will never touch the power of the PS4.  The dGPU nonsense is flat out nonsense.  They didn't put a $600 GPU in the XBox One.  Even pretending for a second that it's a viable possibility is just hilarious.  eSRAM runs really hot and DDR3 runs much hotter than GDDR5.  The PS4 is smaller because it can be smaller.  It emits considerably less heat than the Xbox One even though it has more powerful hardware.  Besides, Sony is a hardware company and Microsoft is a software company.  Sony is going to be better at making the hardware, and Microsoft will be better at making the OS.  It's just one of the many differences between the companies and consoles.

Struck a nerve? Do you even read? I have a problem with being bashed in the head.. I've already typed the response. Go back and read it.

So you don't believe you're being hypocritical? You're speaking out against a company that has made billions of dollars this year alone and will continue to do so. They know what they're talking about and what they're doing. You don't. You're a random dude on the interwebs. I'd think that their marketing strategy is anything better you could ever dream up on your best day. Don't try to understand something you don't.

I also never pretended to understand anything. I said "speculate". Again, please, go back and read or better, leave the thread.

Is that $600 retail?

With CPU's, that's true, due to the serialised nature of the processors, graphics cards, provided they don't run into any other bottlenecks from the likes of Memory bandwidth and such... Can actually achieve almost linear increases in performance.
For example, you would be surprised how many people have taken a Radeon 7770 and overclocked it to 1.2ghz, giving it a theoretical 1.53 Teraflops, the MSI's with the voltage adjustments do surprisingly well.
No fires, smoke or anything.

Still doesn't touch a PS4's GPU however, but it does close the gap to the point where it's really no big deal. - Not that Microsoft would *ever* push for those kinds of clocks, they didn't over-engineer the Xbox One's cooling and power delivery THAT much.

DDR3 in general actually uses less power than GDDR5.
However, GDDR5 would use less power at the same clockspeed.

Also keep in mind GDDR5 requires a much more complex memory controller than what the very mature and in comparison... Simple DDR3 would require, which would add to cost, heat and power consumption, how much? No idea, but nVidia and AMD put allot of effort (And die space) into their GPU memory controllers.

I've been reading over the research those guys over at that misterxmedia blog have been doing and I gotta say there's some pretty damn convincing evidence pointing toward this being true. Of course I'm not nearly as tech savvy as those guys, but I understand the gist of it.

Would be awesome if true. We'll find out soon enough I suppose.

Yes, please, please, please give us a few links to those "experts".
Everybody, and I mean really everybody who knows a little or more about chip design is laughing at this mistertroll...

I just heard the ps4 actually has quad SLI, and will be 200% more powerfull then the x1....................Since no one has actually seen the inside of the box.

Yes electronics get smaller, but look at any high end PC and you will see the size of the CPU heatsync.  Its not small, and definitly not small enough to fit insite the PS4.  CPU's and GPU's make a lot of heat when they are being pushed, having a solid cooling solutioin is essential to long term stability and provides the oppportunity for higher clock speeds.  Take the cell phone for example, my HTC one gets like an oven when it is playing any type of game or media app.   Try to OC the CPU and see how long it lasts for.We have seen what a poor cooling solution can do: Xbox 360 as for eSDRAM running hotter than GDDR5, please provide some factual evidence vs. your opinion V