You are the one who claimed such a thing, the burden of proof is on you. How can I have a source for something that isn't a thing? F2p is just a different model that has been around for ages, and was a logical step for some publishers to try.

F2p might even be more risky, as you don't get ANY money up front, and if your game doesn't catch on, you won't get much from in game transactions either.

So you're basically saying that the forums, social networks and image board aren't full of hypocrisy and troll ?

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Alright then. Just the way you wrote it is came off as if you addressed it as a fact.

As for the rest of it, I don't know what to say. I guess you would both rather people not let their voices be heard and just sit back and take things however the manufacturer wishes to dish them out. I just can't say I agree with that.

We will just have to disagree I guess.

No one cares, as of now the PS4 has about 1 million pre orders, those pre-orders can't be from rabid fanboys only.

Enjoy your system of choice as no one is going to give a damn about it.

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sounds familiair? just more channels for complaining then previous gen

It was your position, it is yours to prove. 

Anything asserted without evidence can be rejected without evidence.

But you are complaining about the backlash X1 got earlier in the summer and saying people who have some fair complaints about the system are babies who crapped themselves. That is far from the truth, people just didn't like that MS told them they had to do certain things like sign in to live or buy all games brand new. People hate being dictated too, more so than ever before. I'm sure had Sony or Nintendo tried their luck like MS did, they would get similar backlash and rightfully so. Not like you would care though. The thing is, because MS did try to impose such policies, it damaged customer trust with the company and many switched sides. This became more apparent on the internet than elsewhere. I say about freedom of speech because you can't seem to deal with this opposition, Neogaf is respected in the industry you know but you resort to name calling because you obviously don't agree. Also, just enjoy your Xbox. No one will care to be honest

This thread was laughably one sided, maybe try to at least pretend to be objective? Easy to tell an xbox fan made it. MS made their bed, take it like a man geez.

I bet when the ps3 ws being blasted for several years and made fun of you were nowhere in site saying it was "Unfair".

"these events aren’t actually for gamers at all."

Actually, someone posted an article not long ago about how these events should be directed toward gamers, as we're the only ones paying attention to them, and because we're the ones who ultimately decide public perception.  Microsoft just learned that.  There's no telling how many millions it cost to spin the Xbox One and its policies around at this late of a date but they did it anyway.  Why?  Because the reactions from gamers was going to decide if the console was a success or not.

This article got it wrong.  Just ask Microsoft.

I never said YOU criticized the Ps3...........And it was a lot more then price, Sony took a tonne of heat for numerous issues, including lack of games, price, poor network, terrible marketing, hard development environment.

This is NOT far bigger, Sony was going DREAMCAST many were saying for a good long while even major media outlets, and if you owned a PS3 you were ridiculed. You're seeing this from a  very biased point of view obviously. Even big developers (John carmack, Gabe newell, publically called sony out)

The gaming community is trash yes, but MS really did deserve a lot of the bashing, what were they thinking? I mean almost anyone could have predicted a backlash with what they were proposing.