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maximrace on 29 August 2013

Calm down duded, no need to act so childish. And Nsanity is a great poster, no need to ban him. Forums would be way worse without him



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riderz13371 on 29 August 2013
maximrace said:
Calm down duded, no need to act so childish. And Nsanity is a great poster, no need to ban him. Forums would be way worse without him

Ethomaz isn't the one acting childish. And the ban is part of a bet. 



ethomaz on 29 August 2013

Adinnieken said:

Your responses here:  http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=166667

Make me tend to doubt your credentials.  I know a lot of people who have a computer science degree and they're system administrators, network engineers, or programmers.  They also work with a big company.  Doesn't make them experts in anything.

My problem is, if you legitimately have the creditials you claim to have to assert that SemiAccurate is wrong, then why didn't you have the same ability to assert AMD was wrong?  Because if you have the creditials you claim to have, then you should have been able to read the information that is freely available and make the logical assumption that either the guy from AMD was wrong or he had no clue as to what Microsoft had done.  Yet, you didn't.

Which either means as NSanity as suggested, that you're full of shit or that you purposefully troll.

So which is it?  Are you full of shit or do you purposefully troll the forums, knowing the correct answer but making statements contrary to what you know or believe just to create discord?

My post...

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5603723

I tried to explained what is hUMA (I never coded to a CPU/GPU with hUMA because it is a new thing in the industry).

PS4 GPU does support hUMA at full state... MS did not support that because the eSRAM... the eSRAM is not coherent in Xbone and a hUMA enable system needs to have all shared coherent memory... so because the eSRAM MS was forced to create a new solution (based in hUMA? I don't know)... if that solution is better or not than hUMA I don't have the awnser because I don't even know if hUMA is that good but in terms of code you have a lot less to write with hUMA (better performance than a not shared memory? I think so).

To make the thinkgs simples the Xbone use a difference memory system from everyting I already saw...

Main DRAM pool: CPU/GPU shared memory coherence
eSRAM pool: CPU/CPU shared memory non-coherence

Xbone is a non-hUMA compilance... their solution is better than hUMA? I don't know.

Are there any other comments that you have issue in that thread?

About my graduations... I'm a low/high level software guy and not a hardware engineer but I wrote techinical articles about new hardware architectures years ago (expecificly Phenon, Core, Fermi, R600, R700, etc).



endimion on 29 August 2013
Adinnieken said:
ethomaz said:

First I'm graduated in Computer Science and works with that in a big company... SemiAccurate just the whole thing wrong because Charlie like to make that way (he give the site this name for that reason "Semi Accurate" when he leaves TheInquirer).

Second AMD didn't works more with syncronous clock for years... the Hiper Transport (HT) didn't works like that...

Now I show you a fact: Xbone DRAM runs at 1066Mhz (2133Mhz in DDR)... the CPU can just have a direct 128bits bus width to the DRAM and you have ~30GB/s bandwidth.

What SemiAccurate did I can do too like to say that the APU run syncronous so the 853Mhz fo GPU means 1706Mhz for CPU... so using the logical SemiAccutate logics the CPU in Xbone runs at 1.7Ghz lol.

I don't know the clock speed of the CPU (can be anything from 1.6 to 2.0Ghz) but I know SemiAccurate is talking bull.

Your responses here:  http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=166667

Make me tend to doubt your credentials.  I know a lot of people who have a computer science degree and they're system administrators, network engineers, or programmers.  They also work with a big company.  Doesn't make them experts in anything.

My problem is, if you legitimately have the creditials you claim to have to assert that SemiAccurate is wrong, then why didn't you have the same ability to assert AMD was wrong?  Because if you have the creditials you claim to have, then you should have been able to read the information that is freely available and make the logical assumption that either the guy from AMD was wrong or he had no clue as to what Microsoft had done.  Yet, you didn't.

Which either means as NSanity as suggested, that you're full of shit or that you purposefully troll.

So which is it?  Are you full of shit or do you purposefully troll the forums, knowing the correct answer but making statements contrary to what you know or believe just to create discord?

you beat me to it.... I had a bunch of friends in college in computer science... and while when it comes to coding they knew a whole lot more than me.... when it came to hardware, electrical engineering and or hardcore nerding they sucked...
heck even with coding... I know highschool super nerd that could do a better job than comp science graduates....






riecsou on 29 August 2013

Ethomaz is like on fire now. I will advise others to stay away...



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riderz13371 on 29 August 2013
endimion said:
Adinnieken said:
ethomaz said:

First I'm graduated in Computer Science and works with that in a big company... SemiAccurate just the whole thing wrong because Charlie like to make that way (he give the site this name for that reason "Semi Accurate" when he leaves TheInquirer).

Second AMD didn't works more with syncronous clock for years... the Hiper Transport (HT) didn't works like that...

Now I show you a fact: Xbone DRAM runs at 1066Mhz (2133Mhz in DDR)... the CPU can just have a direct 128bits bus width to the DRAM and you have ~30GB/s bandwidth.

What SemiAccurate did I can do too like to say that the APU run syncronous so the 853Mhz fo GPU means 1706Mhz for CPU... so using the logical SemiAccutate logics the CPU in Xbone runs at 1.7Ghz lol.

I don't know the clock speed of the CPU (can be anything from 1.6 to 2.0Ghz) but I know SemiAccurate is talking bull.

Your responses here:  http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=166667

Make me tend to doubt your credentials.  I know a lot of people who have a computer science degree and they're system administrators, network engineers, or programmers.  They also work with a big company.  Doesn't make them experts in anything.

My problem is, if you legitimately have the creditials you claim to have to assert that SemiAccurate is wrong, then why didn't you have the same ability to assert AMD was wrong?  Because if you have the creditials you claim to have, then you should have been able to read the information that is freely available and make the logical assumption that either the guy from AMD was wrong or he had no clue as to what Microsoft had done.  Yet, you didn't.

Which either means as NSanity as suggested, that you're full of shit or that you purposefully troll.

So which is it?  Are you full of shit or do you purposefully troll the forums, knowing the correct answer but making statements contrary to what you know or believe just to create discord?

you beat me to it.... I had a bunch of friends in college in computer science... and while when it comes to coding they knew a whole lot more than me.... when it came to hardware, electrical engineering and or hardcore nerding they sucked...
heck even with coding... I know highschool super nerd that could do a better job than comp science graduates....

Sorry but you use way too many ellipsis in your posts..Why do you do that when one period is all it takes.



realgamer on 29 August 2013
ethomaz said:
Adinnieken said:
ethomaz said:

lol not that I didn't know the Xbone CPU clock (can be anything from 1.6 to 2.0Ghz) but the explanation is just wrong in so many levels lol

So, if I understand this correctly now.  When it comes to the Xbox One, SemiAccurate is no longer correct?

Also, what are your creditials, his are listed in the article.

Where did you get your Computer Science, Computer Engineering, or Electrical Engineering degree from?

And finally, please rather than just discount it as untrue, provide a real answer.

I'm not saying you're wrong or right.  I'm tired of people pulling opinions out of their ass when they don't like what is said without some basis in fact to support it.  I dealt with this with the coherency and HSA argument and I'm going to personally put my foot down.

Unless you can corroborate your opinion with some factual information, don't offer it.

First I'm graduated in Computer Science and works with that in a big company... SemiAccurate just the whole thing wrong because Charlie like to make that way (he give the site this name for that reason "Semi Accurate" when he leaves TheInquirer).

Second AMD didn't works more with syncronous clock for years... the Hiper Transport (HT) didn't works like that...

Now I show you a fact: Xbone DRAM runs at 1066Mhz (2133Mhz in DDR)... the CPU can just have a direct 128bits bus width to the DRAM and you have ~30GB/s bandwidth.

What SemiAccurate did I can do too like to say that the APU run syncronous so the 853Mhz fo GPU means 1706Mhz for CPU... so using the logical SemiAccutate logics the CPU in Xbone runs at 1.7Ghz lol.

I don't know the clock speed of the CPU (can be anything from 1.6 to 2.0Ghz) but I know SemiAccurate is talking bull.

Lol because u own ps3 u buying ps4 u know everything lol



ethomaz on 29 August 2013

realgamer said:

Lol because u own ps3 u buying ps4 u know everything lol

Sorry can you explain please?



endimion on 29 August 2013

old habits die hard. I know it sucks to read it, but it's like a reflex. it takes more focus for me to not do that "...." I know it's weird.

it's because I type while I think and the dots are like hmmm when you talk and think. Well at least that's how I see it :D

I'll try to do better. but every time I say that it comes back just as fast :P



DJEVOLVE on 29 August 2013
realgamer said:
ethomaz said:

lol I didn't know the Xbone CPU clock (can be anything from 1.6 to 2.0Ghz) but the explanation is just wrong in so many levels lol


Woow you do have to say something about Xbox one all the time 


He loves Xbox One more then we do.