Pemalite said:
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Yep...exactly my thoughts. Need more than 3GB per GPU.
Knowing Nvidia and GTX 590, 690...they will not give us more than 6GB for 790.
Pemalite said:
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Yep...exactly my thoughts. Need more than 3GB per GPU.
Knowing Nvidia and GTX 590, 690...they will not give us more than 6GB for 790.
disolitude said:
Yep thats what Im saying...because dual GPU cards share the RAM. Meaning that a GTX 790 with 6GB of RAM would have 3 GB of RAM per GPU. 3GB per GPU is not enough for a card that is much more powerful than GTX 770 which has 4 GB. |
Wait a minute, these double cards work pretty much the same way as SLI? As in the memory pool isn't shared, but rather mirrored? Very lame if true...

ultima said:
Wait a minute, these double cards work pretty much the same way as SLI? As in the memory pool isn't shared, but rather mirrored? Very lame if true... |
Yeah its kind of unfortunate. Someone out there just bought a GTX 690 4GB for $1000 dollars and is about to try to play Bioshock infinite on 3 monitors with cranked MSAA. This is a game with somewhat low GPU usage requirements and GTX 690 can max it out in theory...but BAM, VRAM limit wall hits.
Not so fast Jimmy...Not so fast.
| ultima said: Wait a minute, these double cards work pretty much the same way as SLI? As in the memory pool isn't shared, but rather mirrored? Very lame if true... |
Yep, they do!
Plus, the Double-GPU cards generally have lower clockspeeds and in extreme cases PCI-E contention.
It all essentially boils down to advertising.
Back in the day when 3dfx had a couple of VSA100 chips on a single card, they would advertise them as 64Mb/128Mb etc'.
That is, each GPU on the card had that much memory all to itself, no sharing.
Fast forward to today and AMD and nVidia will advertise a high-end dual-GPU card with 3-6Gb when each GPU actually only gets half of that.
However, there is one exception to that rule, some compute scenarios will use the entire memory pool. :)
It's almost as bad as Hard Drive manufacturers stating 1Gb as 1,000 Megabytes, when in fact it's 1024 Megabytes, so you always get less than the advertised capacity in windows. :P

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Slimebeast said:
Wow. Damn. What's the gaming performance and what do you need it for? |
With my heavily overclocked 7970 I trade blows with a 780. That makes one of his Titans 15-20% stronger than mine (Plus he has Double the VRAM for ultra-high resolutions).
Now I can play Battlefield 3 100% maxed out at ~100-120 FPS in 1080p (Single player). So his PC 2.5 times stronger than mine (Or probable 3 times when they are overclocked). He could play any game maxrd out in 1440p at 60+ FPS (Including Crysis 3 and Metro: LL).
In other words, there is no game he cannot max out lol!
ultima said:
Wait a minute, these double cards work pretty much the same way as SLI? As in the memory pool isn't shared, but rather mirrored? Very lame if true... |
I agree. And that is why I will not buy a dual card until they make sense. The VRAM isn't even the problem though: They suffer from same scailing and compatibility problems using two cards have. That makes no sense to me and it should be a harware level forced SLI/Crossfire that scails in every game by at least 80%.
Otherwise I would feel like a beta tester who is out $1000....
Captain_Tom said:
Otherwise I would feel like a beta tester who is out $1000.... |
While this is still somewhat correct, the driver/scaling issues for these cards are not as big of a problem anymore. Very few games don't have an SLI profile ready even before release and the ones that don't, usually don't need to use SLI.
Last game I played that had scalling issues in SLI was Batman Arkham City, but on a GTX 680/690 it already ran 90+ fps so it was not even necessary.
Even 3 cards make a lot of sense, as long as you have a multimonitor or a 4K setup...the issue with that is VRAM.
Here is a nice breakdown of most current PC games and how many cards are needed to play smoothly and at what resolution.
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4632/36/geforce-gtx-700-series-sli-review-geforce-gtx-760770780-in-sli-and-3-way-sli-how-many-cards-do-you-need
I personally would have no issues paying 1200 bucks today and going 3 way SLi with a GTX 770 4GB... I would however have major issues paying 2000 bucks for 3X GTX 780 and having only 3 GB of VRAM.
disolitude said:
Last game I played that had scalling issues in SLI was Batman Arkham City, but on a GTX 680/690 it already ran 90+ fps so it was not even necessary. Even 3 cards make a lot of sense, as long as you have a multimonitor or a 4K setup...the issue with that is VRAM. Here is a nice breakdown of most current PC games and how many cards are needed to play smoothly and at what resolution. http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4632/36/geforce-gtx-700-series-sli-review-geforce-gtx-760770780-in-sli-and-3-way-sli-how-many-cards-do-you-need I personally would have no issues paying 1200 bucks today and going 3 way SLi with a GTX 770 4GB... I would however have major issues paying 2000 bucks for 3X GTX 780 and having only 3 GB of VRAM. |
Oh believe me man I know all about PC hardware lol! I have built MANY PC's. But I look at it this way:
-2x680's cost $800
-1x690 cost $1000
-2x680's overclock and thus perform better than a 690
So for $200 extra dollars I better not just be trading a little less power use for extra space. If they are going to sell it as a single card, it better work as a single card. Until that happens (And they are VERY close), there will always be a better solution...
| CGI-Quality said: I would truly prefer a 790 vs 2 Titans at this point. Sure, the latter will offer superior performance, but an extra $1K is an extra $1K. Besides, if the 690 vs 680 SLI situation is anything to go by, the 790 should be quite enough of a powerhouse! |
Why wouldn't you consider Captain_Toms suggestion and get 2X 780? Should be the same thing but you will get better overclocks and probably pay less. i really doubt that the 790 will be $1000 bucks...$1200-1300 minimum.
disolitude said:
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Or 3x Geforce 780's. :)
I'm pretty sure, CGI does have an Asus Sabertooth x79 with 2x PCI-E x16 slots and an x8 slot like myself.

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