Since MS lower the amount of launch countries do to localisation problems (software), I'm predicting they won't just have those units sitting and waiting. Probably moving them to the remaining launch countries. I'm predicting atleast 1 week before ps4.

Prob 1 week before or maybe after ps4.

Early November if they have sense.

Before PS4.

I'm hoping for it to come out when Ghost's comes out but I really think it will come out a week after the PS4 launches.

Nov 5th is the most probable. They want to be sold out before the PS4 launches. They will probably announce some type of US game system bundle with a game soon enough when they announce a launch date. It might not have the game inside, just a bundle price.

remember remember the 5th of November.....

and they showed that in the UK that would be awesome a full 3 week before EU PS4 launch... on such a symbolic day

Im thinking early November, if I had to guess November 11th

doubt it will be 11th of November half of western Europe shops are closed.... it's armistice day for WW1.... poppy day in UK and isn't it veteran day in USA ????

I'm calling it right now and it makes sense. November 12,2013. 11/12/13 ...would look so good on an advertisement.