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ethomaz said:
If the October release was confirmed at GamesCom then Sony will be over MS no matter what MS do. It is like Sony is creating that since February doing the right thing in PR department to ends with this "early" launch.

Everything flow right to the Sony side.

I don't know how it gets better than releasing in more countries than your competitor and outdoing them in preorders in all regions. lol Everything is going good for Sony. I'm worried for Microsoft.

 



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Think about it this way, right now, MS biggest enemy is the forum people. It's understandable because everything blew up because of e3 and the pre-reveal. If your message isn't strong enough, it'll get taken apart and questioned bit by bit. Then they'll take your words and say "but you said this just a minute ago".
The idea of just having a showcase means that instead of announcing directly, they leave it up to the press and attendees.
This way, they hold no liability over promises made, and instead of just seeing the console, you'll instead get first hand accounts of the users.
This transforms a tenuous situation into a safer one. All you will be hearing is, "I played this and it was great", "this worked really well", "I was surprised", and the media will be saying "so, it looks like this is fixed, so that's good".
Press isn't very skilled at analyzing what's going on, and since you can't really record it, they can't go back and factcheck.
In itself, the only thing we can ascertain from the cancellation is that MS chose to go a safer route, meaning they are confident in their platform, but not of their management.
It would be like having a new law simply be introduced via the written word, rather than let joe biden talk about it.

TLDR: This cancellation means MS clearly understands their strengths and weaknesses. Likely, strength is in the system itself. The games are good, the controller is awesome, and it has some cool features. The weaknesses are in the management, the representation, the image, and the forums.



I think we can start to get ready.

 



ethomaz said:

Nsanity said:

We've known this for days..

No streaming yeah but I think a closed press conference was planned but now just a showcase.

Nope, last twitter from Larry and Phil was about the press only event so that is still happening



Machiavellian said:

Nope, last twitter from Larry and Phil was about the press only event so that is still happening

No. They already confirmed press showcase only.



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ethomaz said:
If the October release was confirmed at GamesCom then Sony will be over MS no matter what MS do. It is like Sony is creating that since February doing the right thing in PR department to ends with this "early" launch.

Everything flow right to the Sony side.

You really think launching a few weeks before MS will really make that much of a differenece.  Man, do you guys just live for one day or what.  Will it really be such a big deal if Sony launch at the end of Oct, and MS launch at Mid Nov.  Both consoles probably will see the most purchase during black friday anyway going up to Christmas.  When all is said and done, both consoles will need to continue to deliver and advantage throughout their lifecycle or the other company could lead a charge.  There are so many variables for the life of both consoles that only fanboys would get excited about a 2 week launch window compared to years these consoles will be on the market.



ethomaz said:

Machiavellian said:

Nope, last twitter from Larry and Phil was about the press only event so that is still happening

No. They already confirmed press showcase only.

Link please.  Have not seen it.



Machiavellian said:

Link please.  Have not seen it.

Your own Major Nelson links...

http://news.xbox.com/2013/08/gamescom-major-nelson-post
http://majornelson.com/2013/08/17/xbox-at-gamescom-2013/

Or if you prefer audio...

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/08/13/microsofts-phil-spencer-details-playable-xbox-one-games-at-gamescom-showcase-events-wont-be-livestreamed/



ethomaz said:

Machiavellian said:

Link please.  Have not seen it.

Your own Major Nelson links...

http://news.xbox.com/2013/08/gamescom-major-nelson-post
http://majornelson.com/2013/08/17/xbox-at-gamescom-2013/

Or if you prefer audio...

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/08/13/microsofts-phil-spencer-details-playable-xbox-one-games-at-gamescom-showcase-events-wont-be-livestreamed/

Yes, it says private press showing which is exactly what I stated.  Are you not understanding the difference.  



Machiavellian said:

Yes, it says private press showing which is exactly what I stated.  Are you not understanding the difference.

No. Showcase only... read again... it is a hand-ons with games and devs... no press conference, no PR, no presentation, etc... no livestream because there is no press conference to stream lol.

"As Phil Spencer said last week, we’re hosting an small invite only media event on Tuesday, 20 August where we’ll share some news and give media a chance to experience gaming on Xbox One first hand."

"He also specified that the showcase event on tuesday morning will include a really short presentation on stage, talking about some “Unique exclusive” coming to Xbox One, but most of the time will be dedicated to the press spending time with the developers and with their games. It will basically be “a room with a lot of hands-on”. There will also be a “community showcase” in the evening."