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AnthonyW86 on 18 August 2013
the-pi-guy said:
AnthonyW86 said:
CGI-Quality said:
existenz2 said:
All the comparitive points in your post are factually incorrect in favour of xbone

Here is a factual comparison
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=638808

Some of the more relevant bits:

 

Actually there is one thing missing there, the Xbox One has an Ethernet port and the PS4 doesn't. It's definitely not a deal breaker but i would have liked a Ethernet port on the PS4 aswell just in case.

As CGI said, there is an Ethernet port, what they said they don't have is an Ethernet cable that comes with it.  

Ethernet Port - yes

Ethernet Cable - no

Yeah i must have mised it in the hands-on video, glad to hear.



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JoeTheBro on 18 August 2013
walsufnir said:
JoeTheBro said:
Adinnieken said:
CGI-Quality said:

Full-on, Spec-for-Spec comparison:

Manufacturer Sony Microsoft
Generation 8 8
CPU x86 8-core Amd Jaguar processor. CPU frequency 1.6GHz x86 8-core Amd custom Microsoft processor. CPU frequency 1.6GHz
Graphics AMD Radeon. 1.84 TFLOPS (very close to the Radeon HD 7870) AMD Radeon.1.29 TFLOPS (very close to the Radeon HD 7790)
Ram 8GB GDDR5 5500MHz 8GB DDR3 2133MHz
Optical drive Blu-ray / DVD Blu-ray / DVD
Storage space 500 GB built-in HDD 500 GB built-in HDD
Web connection Ethernet IEEE 802.11 b/g/n Ethernet, WiFi
Cloud Storage Yes Yes
Skype No Yes
Region-free Yes Yes
Internet connectivity restrictions No No
Used games & DRM No restrictions. Any game discs that you buy for the PS4 are yours, and can be shared in whatever way you wish No restrictions. Any game discs that you buy for the Xbox One are yours, and can be shared in whatever way you wish
Video support HDMI Input . Optical Output with 4K Support HDMI Input and Output. Optical Output with 4K Support
Audio HDMI and S/PDIF optical. 7.1 surround sound HDMI and S/PDIF optical. 7.1 surround sound
Controllers - PS4 DualShock 4 


Bluetooth 2.1+EDR (3Mbps maximum speed)
include a clickable touch pad on the front
include a social-focused Share button, a built-in speaker, and a headphone jack.		 - Xbox One controller


Wi-Fi Direct's (250Mbps maximum speed)
New Trigger Rumble Motors
Motion and voice control - PS Eye (1280×800 Pixel Cameras x2) (not included)
- PS4 Move (not included)		 - Kinect 2 (1x 1080p HD Camera) (included)
Secondary Screen PlayStation App
Game streaming from PS4 to PS Vita		 Xbox SmartGlass
Back Compatibility No native Compatibility. Gaikai (requires additional purchase) No native Compatibility
Operating System PlayStation 4 OS Triple OS (Xbox OS + Windows 8 kernel + Virtualization OS)
Cloud computing Yes  Yes
Online gaming PlayStation Plus 
$50 - year / $18 - 3 months		 Xbox Live Gold
$60 - year / $25 - 3 months / $10 - 1 month
Features - PS4 Will update while switched off

- Play digital titles as they download from the PS Store

- Immediately pick up any game from where you left off with "suspend mode"

- PSN Friend Limit Is Increasing

- PS4 Chargers your Controller while Sleeping

- Anytime remote play

- The ‘share’ button on the DualShock 4 controller offers a gamer the choice to share some of her recorded gameplay on social and video sites.

- You can invite an online friend to ‘watch’ or even ‘play’ your game in real time.
 - Watch live TV from your cable or satellite set-top box through Xbox One

- The Xbox ONE's 'Snap mode' will allow multi-tasking, like watching a film and making Skype calls simultaneously

- The console will recognise you through the Kinect camera, and once it recognises you, it logs you in

- The Xbox has the ability to hold group video calls through the gaming console

- Stay on top of by discovering the entertainment that is popular among your friends

- The voice-activated software allows a user to scroll across applications, including games, tV and music. Switching from TV to gaming to music is just like changing a channel on your tv, just with the sound of your voice

 

If I have anything wrong, someone let me know, as long as it is confirmed, and I will adjust it. Truth is, these consoles aren't that far apart in capabilities, overall, but the PS4 will have some graphical advantages in the end.

Very nice table.

The Xbox One Wireless Controller does not use Wi-Fi Direct.  It uses a proprietary RF-based wireless technology. (Confirmed by Microsoft's Marc Whitten and Larry Hyrb).  Most likely, this is a UHF-based wireless technology based on a relatively recent patent awarded to Microsoft.

The OS names are technically Orbis (PS4) and HyperV (Xbox One).

Xbox One's network connectivity is the same as the PS4's as listed except it also includes Wi-Fi Direct.

The Xbox One can do the following too:

- Xbox One will update while switched "off"

- Xbox One will play digital titles as they download from the Xbox LIVE.

- Xbox One will immediately pick-up any game from where you left off.

- The Xbox LIVE friend limit Is Increasing

- Xbox One charges your controller while sleeping.

- Xbox One can share recorded gameplay on social and video sites using the Upload center.

- With Xbox One you can invite an online friend play your game in real time.

Also, RAM is R A M, not Ram.  It's an acronym for Random Access Memory.  The Xbox One also has 32MB of ESRAM.


The PS4 OS isn't Orbis, it's like Dynamic or something.

 


http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/159476-ps4-runs-orbis-os-a-modified-version-of-freebsd-thats-similar-to-linux

And? My info is from Sony, that is from a leaked picture. Also I believe it is meaning PS4/Orbis OS, not that the OS is called Orbis.



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walsufnir on 18 August 2013
JoeTheBro said:
walsufnir said:
 


http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/159476-ps4-runs-orbis-os-a-modified-version-of-freebsd-thats-similar-to-linux

And? My info is from Sony, that is from a leaked picture. Also I believe it is meaning PS4/Orbis OS, not that the OS is called Orbis.


Then feel free to prove your point - your turn.



JoeTheBro on 18 August 2013
walsufnir said:
JoeTheBro said:
walsufnir said:
 
 


http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/159476-ps4-runs-orbis-os-a-modified-version-of-freebsd-thats-similar-to-linux

And? My info is from Sony, that is from a leaked picture. Also I believe it is meaning PS4/Orbis OS, not that the OS is called Orbis.


Then feel free to prove your point - your turn.

I posted a video from Sony saying it was called Dynamic...



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walsufnir on 18 August 2013
JoeTheBro said:
walsufnir said:
JoeTheBro said:
walsufnir said:
 
 


http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/159476-ps4-runs-orbis-os-a-modified-version-of-freebsd-thats-similar-to-linux

And? My info is from Sony, that is from a leaked picture. Also I believe it is meaning PS4/Orbis OS, not that the OS is called Orbis.


Then feel free to prove your point - your turn.

I posted a video from Sony saying it was called Dynamic...


Wait - this crappy video done by a pr guy is your proof?! I still believe the pic more and the article. Nobody calls an OS "Dynamic". I didn't even hear it when watching the video... The guy who speaks probably doesn't even have the slightest idea what bsd is.



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Nsanity on 18 August 2013
JoeTheBro said:
Darth Tigris said:
Any advantage is theoretical until we see it affect a game. I just don't see the benefit of the sheer volume of discussion about this.

Seriously, a more meaningful discussion is Forza Motorsport 5's graphics in comparison to Driveclub's graphics. Of course I'm sure bias disguised as personal preference would even affect those discussions.

This is really going to be an annoying gen for the forums ...

Forza wins. DriveClub is doing way more real time stuff that technically is better, but who cares what the numbers say. It was smart for Forza to bake and fake a lot of things. Looks amazing!

Digital Foundry

Sony's press shots for DriveClub look pretty cool, but despite some neat features such as proper vehicle deformation and some beautiful lighting, the low quality, blurry textures looked a world apart from what Forza 5 was achieving running at twice the frame-rate.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-playstation-4



Hynad on 18 August 2013
Nsanity said:
JoeTheBro said:
Darth Tigris said:
Any advantage is theoretical until we see it affect a game. I just don't see the benefit of the sheer volume of discussion about this.

Seriously, a more meaningful discussion is Forza Motorsport 5's graphics in comparison to Driveclub's graphics. Of course I'm sure bias disguised as personal preference would even affect those discussions.

This is really going to be an annoying gen for the forums ...

Forza wins. DriveClub is doing way more real time stuff that technically is better, but who cares what the numbers say. It was smart for Forza to bake and fake a lot of things. Looks amazing!

Digital Foundry

Sony's press shots for DriveClub look pretty cool, but despite some neat features such as proper vehicle deformation and some beautiful lighting, the low quality, blurry textures looked a world apart from what Forza 5 was achieving running at twice the frame-rate.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-playstation-4


But you conveniently omit to mention this part: 

Declared as pre-alpha code, MotorStorm developer Evolution Studios is quick to point out that the E3 build in demonstration is only 35 per cent complete.



SvennoJ on 18 August 2013

8th generation and still static pre-baked lighting, no weather for a sim racer? It was already embarrassing last gen. 5th gen could do it, why keep stuck in the past to get shiny cars. Turn 10 needs to stop chasing the best looking press shots and make an immersive sim racer.



RazorDragon on 18 August 2013
SvennoJ said:
8th generation and still static pre-baked lighting, no weather for a sim racer? It was already embarrassing last gen. 5th gen could do it, why keep stuck in the past to get shiny cars. Turn 10 needs to stop chasing the best looking press shots and make an immersive sim racer.


Yeah, because lightning is just what a race sim needs to be immersive. Sorry, but I don't belive anyone should care about the way lightning is rendered when it looks good enough, Forza looks great with pre-baked lightning(which no one would notice if the developers themselves didn't said it was) and that's what count. About weather, yeah, you're absolutely right.



Hynad on 18 August 2013
RazorDragon said:
SvennoJ said:
8th generation and still static pre-baked lighting, no weather for a sim racer? It was already embarrassing last gen. 5th gen could do it, why keep stuck in the past to get shiny cars. Turn 10 needs to stop chasing the best looking press shots and make an immersive sim racer.


Yeah, because lightning is just what a race sim needs to be immersive. Sorry, but I don't belive anyone should care about the way lightning is rendered when it looks good enough, Forza looks great with pre-baked lightning(which no one would notice if the developers themselves didn't said it was) and that's what count. About weather, yeah, you're absolutely right.


For once I kinda agree. Although I like when the weather and time of day is dynamic during the races. Driving while the sun is setting is really awesome in GT5.

That being said, just because the ability to do dynamic lighting is readily available, doesn't mean every developers should use it. Sometimes, the use of static lighting serves the purpose of a game much better, with more convincing results for the particular scene, landscape or the mood needed.