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OdinHades on 12 August 2013

There's a simple rule in business: The customer is always right. If you don't please your customers, they won't buy your shit. End of story. The customers made it very clear that they don't want a console that is online all the time and they don't want games they can't resell. There is nothing unfair about it. You have to bring to the people the stuff they want, not some stuff you want.

The only exception from this is Apple. They can do whatever the fuck they want and get away with it. Don't ask me why.



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riderz13371 on 12 August 2013
Legend11 said:

I agree with him, I mean look at how some haters refuse to give it credit for anything at all even when they're proven wrong.

Take the claim haters made about Microsoft turning its back on gamers for example. E3 came around and the haters were expecting Sony to crush Microsoft in terms of exclusives and then Microsoft actually announced more for their console. Instead of admitting they were wrong they instead claim Microsoft was crushed at E3 even though in terms of games they weren't. This is probably the first year that games ever took a backseat in terms of importance at E3 and only because Microsoft won it on those terms so the goal post was moved by the haters.

Then there's Xbox Live and the constant bashing it took over the years for charging for online gaming. I remember some Playstation gamers saying they'd never pay for online and would move to PC if it ever happened on a Playstation console. Now we see that it has and they're preordering and making excuses, I haven't seen any kind of serious backlash with large groups of Playstation gamers moving to PC.
Another one is the indies, last generation you'd hardly hear a peep about them even though the 360 was the console that brought them to console gaming. In fact I remember people having list wars and refusing to even put XBLA games let alone indie games in the lists because they didn't consider them in the same league as retail games. Now I see Xbox One vs. PS4 list wars and suddenly indie games are listed side by side with retail games for exclusives. Just another goal post that was moved when it serves their purpose.

This was probably when PS Plus wasn't so awesome. The instant game collection alone makes PS Plus an absolute must buy.



PureDante on 12 August 2013

Obviously it's been unfair, the public hasn't been able to test the actual product yet! It's just that the internet is an unfair place, with easily swaying judgements over the most minute details. 



All of this, of course, is just my opinion.

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Nem on 12 August 2013

No, it wasnt. It was completely deserved. Moving along...



NYCrysis on 12 August 2013

"Molyneux believes the future of gaming is online, as long as developers can create the right experiences."

As long as you have rasist jerks, douchbags, and elitests gaming online then the outlook isn't that bright.



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RenCutypoison on 12 August 2013
Wright said:
RenCutypoison said:


I was just talking about curiosity.

Of course there are amazing online experience (Demon soul with the message on the ground and ghosts was great)


Oh, right, you were talking about his mobile app xD Now I understand.

So, you partially agree with him onto the having online connectivity makes up for unique experiences?


Of course, he is not that idiot. Not all he says is wrong, most of the time, what he says is awesome ; but then we play the game.

Like Will Wright and David Cage.



Bladeforce on 12 August 2013

This comment by him is hardly surprising as he, just like Electronic Arts pretty much have tea and biscuits together with Microsoft. Besides isnt Molyneux past his sell by date now?



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soulfly666 on 12 August 2013

I think MS was making a mistake and commend them for correcting it, and also for listening to gamers as a whole. I don't look down on them for doing the right thing. I also think if gamers spoke with their wallets and stopped buying annualized games, DEVs and Publishers would have to focus harder on higher quality releases and dedicate more effort into new IP.

Also, slightly off topic, but the majority of consumers who follow the law and purchase games, and support the hobby should not have to pay or have their experiences drastically altered because of piracy. Companies need to come up with a smarter way to deal with it. Case in point - the PSVita memory cards...I think it is the single largest reason why that system is failing.  I like the Vita, but I can see why people aren't willing to spend 250 bucks on a handheld just to have to then spend 20-100 more for a memory card.



Dr.Grass on 13 August 2013
walsufnir said:
Dr.Grass said:

A man is only as good as his last performance. No question of how you'll be remembered.


Wow, that's a brave statement especially from you....

Dunno what you are talking about. I just called someone a cunt that's all. And said I'm fucking off but couldn't cause there's not much else to do during worktime sometimes. 

How is that brave. Enlighten me.

"...especially from you..."

Oh please.



The Fury on 13 August 2013
OdinHades said:
There's a simple rule in business: The customer is always right. If you don't please your customers, they won't buy your shit. End of story. The customers made it very clear that they don't want a console that is online all the time and they don't want games they can't resell. There is nothing unfair about it. You have to bring to the people the stuff they want, not some stuff you want.

The only exception from this is Apple. They can do whatever the fuck they want and get away with it. Don't ask me why.

You are right on the business front but with Apple it comes with a certain amount of elitism and status. An example is in cars, Ferrari's aren't nessecarily the best cars but if someone said you can either have an Audi R8 or a Ferrari F430 most people will say the Ferrari. Apple has that 'status and elitism', which is why even though tablet computers have existed for way before Apple, it's only Apple that made them popular (it's not like they made them affordable just popular). Yet even Apple have made mistakes, look at the bashing Apple maps got.

MS didn't have the luxury of this and seemingly tried to implement policies it wanted on a market that didn't want them. Taking Apple as case again, when the MP3 market started, Apple gained it's popularity (their computers were never great before then, nor as popular), they used their knowledge of the market and produced the iPod at a reasonable price but the key bit was iTunes. They made it easy for you to not only download new songs but also put the ones you already own on your new MP3 player. This meant that it was by far the best product on the market and took off because of that, leading I'm sure into the success of other Apple products. MS on the other hand with Xbox, they aren't the market leading product, they weren't making buying games easier, they tried to implement 'monopoly' like features on a market they didn't have a monopoly on. It's not like Windows where they can do what they want as they do have a monopoly. 



Hmm, pie.