drkohler said:
Whatever it is you are smoking, can I have some? |
not enough profit to sell it at more competitive price, and not a big loss cause it's M$. (It's per console)

drkohler said:
Whatever it is you are smoking, can I have some? |
not enough profit to sell it at more competitive price, and not a big loss cause it's M$. (It's per console)

| the2real4mafol said: I don't see Microsoft making a loss. There's no way Kinect cost £80 to make, it's only a camera sensor. And it's just so expensive. PS4 will make a small loss of like £20 or so i think because of the processor. Something, Xbox One's higher price can cover. Just. |
the camera costs almost as much as the console its self to make

| the2real4mafol said: I don't see Microsoft making a loss. There's no way Kinect cost £80 to make, it's only a camera sensor. And it's just so expensive. PS4 will make a small loss of like £20 or so i think because of the processor. Something, Xbox One's higher price can cover. Just. |
Well there was a news saying that kinect cost as much as the X1 to make

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i wonder how much will Sony lose if the PS4 is sold at a loss, alongside the Vita's loss, and the Vita's japanese price which makes an even bigger loss, I'm sure the PS3/PSP will make up for some of those losses, so i guess it's pretty much garaunteed that we won't get a PS3 pricecut/PS4+Vita bundle, for now atleast...
| the2real4mafol said: I don't see Microsoft making a loss. There's no way Kinect cost £80 to make, it's only a camera sensor. And it's just so expensive. PS4 will make a small loss of like £20 or so i think because of the processor. Something, Xbox One's higher price can cover. Just. |
There is NO way on earth that either company WON'T be taking a loss on each console sold out of the gate.
If Nintendo, for the first time in ages, is taking a loss on Wii U units (and they haven't even dropped the price), considering the basic hardware for the Wii U is inevitably less expensive than that of PS4 or Xbox "One", then there is just no way Sony and MS don't also lose money. More money per unit, in fact.
Sony 80$ loss
micosoft 60$ loss

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I think they both lose between $20-$40 per unit to manufacture and deliver to retail. If they sell them direct, they only lose $5-$15 per unit.
Because M$ is going to sell a crapload of battery chargers and headset adaptors, they will really be breaking even from the word go.
Also, based on the sheer number of people who frequent this site and claim that they either don't play online or don't have internet that allows them to, Sony will not have a high attach rate on PS+. Thus hurting Sony's ability to make any money off of the PS4.
On that same idea, because M$ is pushing the internet connection aspect, their attach rate to Live Gold will be astronomical! They will be rolling in the dough from day one!!
Just my guess based on the feedback given by the posters on this site.
Im basing this off of nothing but im guessing $50-100
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MS for sure.
Kinect costs as much as the console to make according to the press.
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