gooch_destroyer said: cheesecake said: gooch_destroyer said: 'Sup Nintendo guys Sup Sony man. How's it hanging?   I like that Shokio pic. lol

The light is currently hanging very solidly on my ceiling.

yes, Shokio is sitting beside's the WiiU's secret sauce, King DDD RAM.

It started on the question if Mario 3D World is a system seller or not and if there were other system sellers and ended on Wii U`s ability to appeal or not.
We weren`t talking about reaching or not Wii levels - which i think it won`t. At least i hadn`t that in mind.

Personally i do believe Wii U`s touchscreen gamepad is a great to make people familliar with the console and make it stand out from the competition. Afterall, touchscreen interfaces are common these days.
Of course, in the end it`s about games. And Nintendo is now starting to have it`s first system sellers.

Sony explains why DualShock 4 dropped touchscreen

Um, well....
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=170627

What are your thoughts?

I have to agree with them.

The Wii U gamepad is great for games built around it, but it doesn't add much to pre-existing game designs. Off TV play also gets in the way since devs have to decide to either innovative with the second screen, or have off tv play.

See mariokart 8's only putting a huge horn on the screen.

Actually no, it does enhance alot of current game design. But if devs wont use it, they dont have time to get creative with it, or to use it with a subtle hand , the investment of it or the bump to costs wont be worth it from the current standpoint. However if used in the most sensible way, it'd greatly extend the longevity of the platform.

Because the PS4 is really entwined with that AAA model and they really dont have time for much else.

Well, I don't really think that's final.

http://nintendoeverything.com/new-mario-kart-8-details-development-tracks-customization-more/

- About the Gamepad use: “Our priority is to provide the remote display on the GamePad only. We have other ideas, but that’s all we can tell you for now.”

That would explain a thing i noticed.

Compared to the polish of the other game features, that the gamepad display looks like very early design. It almost looks a bit off compared to every else. It could be that they changed it completely already, but didn't show it off. 

" "When Nintendo came out with that, we were like, 'Wow, that's just like our prototype!’ That surprised us," Aoki said."
Ok.. I´ll pretend that this was true.

Back to the issue, some games really make excellent use of the touchscreen, but I don´t think that this should be mandatory. Injustice, for example, never uses it, and still it feels very comfortable to play.

How so? Maps and Inventory? lol.

If Nintendo themselves can't find a way to enhance games with the Gamepad, how are Third Parties expected to? I've yet to see any game the Gamepad enhances.

In fact, I feel the Gamepad is an albatross around the Wii U's neck, which is actually one of the many reasons the system is selling dismally World Wide.

Streamlined gaming interface. In a time where people are all about dat "immersion" that is paramount.

For someone who doesnt understand its relevance and consitently compare the Wii to the WiiU that's a very natural conclusion to come by. But its one formed with one missing key evidence. One that will disappear as you begin to understand its purpose.

Its Nintendo's job to do that in 2014 and beyond.

Its different, its also a rather interesting tool. One that can be used to achieve many different things. I'd really like to see what it can do with RTS's and how its used in smash bros, considering each device does have two screens. Infact I have many ideas my self of interesting utilities it can utilize in single player/Local multip/online multi. 

Hell you can even try it with 2 vs 2 online multi

Of course people will have resitance to something they do not understand. If you're close minded and ignorant. Like the children of those who enslaved our ancestors.